Scruit Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/26249790/sons-of-guns-cast-member-arrested-charged-with-molestation-of-a-juvenile BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) - The founder and owner of Red Jacket Firearms in Baton Rouge, LA was arrested Saturday. William Hayden and his shop have been the focus of the reality TV show "Sons of Guns" that aired on the Discovery Channel. Will Hayden was charged with molestation of a juvenile and crimes against nature. According to TMZ, Hayden says his arrest is the result of a bitter ex-girlfriend's false allegations. Hayden was released from the East Baton Rouge Parish Prison after posting a $150,000 bond. All I will say is that he is innocent until proven guilty, just like everyone else in this great country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted August 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 TMZ has a little more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/08/11/sons-of-guns-will-hayden-arrested-child-molestation/ Hayden tells TMZ his ex-girlfriend, and mother to one of his daughters, went to cops more than a week ago and accused him of molesting their child. He claims the woman did it in retaliation for him ending their relationship.Hayden also says the daughter -- who he is raising with his new wife -- was interviewed by Child Protective Services and returned to his home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Nevah been done befo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 At least he stopped molesting historical firearms and ruining them for at least one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1234 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/26249790/sons-of-guns-cast-member-arrested-charged-with-molestation-of-a-juvenile All I will say is that he is innocent until proven guilty, just like everyone else in this great country. They generally need a little more evidence than an accusation in order to arrest someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted August 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 They generally need a little more evidence than an accusation in order to arrest someone. I would agree. I find it confusing that he was not only arrested but repotedly *charged*, however the alleged victim was returned to his home/care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Either he's a piece of shit or she's a piece of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1234 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Either he's a piece of shit or she's a piece of shit. or both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted August 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Someone needs to go to jail for a very long time. - If he DID do it, then throw away the key.- If she is lying, then she should get the same jail time that he would have been given. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 They generally need a little more evidence than an accusation in order to arrest someone.No they do not. I know someone first-hand who had his whole life turned upside down based on no more than a gal's accusations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 In a molestation case, what evidence are you looking for beyond the victim's account?Not every sicko is dumb enough to keep videos and pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 On an unrelated note, how lucky is that guy that his news breaks right when robin Williams hangs himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 On an unrelated note, how lucky is that guy that his news breaks right when robin Williams hangs himself?His wife had him killed? Would make more sense And yeah, the timing is lucky. I didn't even here about Hayden till now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Obama had robin Williams killed to take focus off the bombings in Iraq 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Obamahawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aforrest4 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Someone needs to go to jail for a very long time. - If he DID do it, then throw away the key.- If she is lying, then she should get the same jail time that he would have been given.This^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 In a molestation case, what evidence are you looking for beyond the victim's account? That why I am confused that he has been charged *and* the "victim" returned to his home. Those two things should not go hand-in-hand. - If they think he did it they should charge him and keep the girl away from him.- If they don't think he did it then give the girl back and don't charge him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 More details, but no revelations: http://theadvocate.com/news/9965583-123/sons-of-guns-star-arrested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 That why I am confused that he has been charged *and* the "victim" returned to his home. Those two things should not go hand-in-hand. - If they think he did it they should charge him and keep the girl away from him.- If they don't think he did it then give the girl back and don't charge him. Girl's account may have differed from the mother's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Girl's account may have differed from the mother's. The more recent news article just above your post states that teh girl denied anything improper happened. Now, that doesn't mean NOTHING happened - it could mean that she is intimidated by him and has been scared into silence. But is also could mean that nothing improper happened. Again though, there woud have to be evidence to actually charge him, no? An arrest is easier to justify, but charges are not files on a he-said-she-said basis. Are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) is the victim over 18 now? **edit - I didn't realize this was alleged to have happened so recently. I dealt with a family where a 19 year old had been molested by her uncle when she was 14. The matter I was dealing with was totally unrelated to the 19 year old (she was one of my witnesses), but she maintained contact with her uncle. My thought was that these were old(er) allegations that had only recently surfaced (which is extremely common when kids are abused). If the victim is now an adult, they can choose to maintain a relationship with their abuser until and unless there's a no-contact order against the accused. That was what I was envisioning here. Not nearly enough evidence to make a judgment on this. I think his "offer" to submit to the polygraph if they tested the accuser was an interesting choice. I'd be all about clearing my name - then sue the woman for malicious prosecution. He's a quasi-celebrity. He can actually argue with a straight face that his reputation is financially damaged, and likely get a pretty large judgment against her. She could also be charged with falsification and obstruction, among other things. Edited August 13, 2014 by redkow97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Definitely nowhere near enough information to come close to a decision. Just sit back and let it run its course. If she was over 18 then Childrens Services would not be involved, right? Also, she is his daughter, so could there ever be such a thing as a consensual relationship at any age? I actually think the "I'll polygraph if she does" is a perfectly fair offer. Edited August 13, 2014 by Scruit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 I was always told polygraph is not admissible in court... Is that not true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 I was always told polygraph is not admissible in court... Is that not true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted August 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I've heard it's inadmissible too - but I'm not sure if it's different in different states. It is still allowed as an investigative tool, though, and it's trusted enough that if you pass with flying colors then that's definitely going to heavily influence the outcome of the investigation. The way I see it, he had little gain and a lot to lose by submitting to the test. Just like speaking to the police at all. Anything you say can be used against you, but they are not compelled to volunteer to the jury the parts of your testimony that worked in your favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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