ReconRat Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) This is interesting. Army Corp of Engineers says could fail at any moment.They want to drain it to low levels and get rid of it all together. http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/03/11/Buckeye-Lake-dam-recommendations.html edit: apparently Ohio did not close the flood gates on March 1 like they normally do. Keeping the levels low. Residents haven't received dock fees this year. Re-construction (if decided) would take 3 to 5 years and be an economic disaster for the local area. Edited March 11, 2015 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 When they drained Lake Milton the houses and property went dirt cheap after they fixed the dam and refilled it they were selling for 20 times what they were bought for. Keep and Eye on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post C-bus Posted March 12, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Hopefully they fill it with bleach, drain, rinse, repeat before refilling it with water. Would be nice to be able to eat one of those crappie. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowdog Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 This will kill the already dismal economy in that area but they need to do something. Last 5 or so times i have taken my boat out there the people with me (and myself) wont even get in the water. Hard to have fun with a boat out there when all you do is drive around the pond ten times get bored and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 When they drained Lake Milton the houses and property went dirt cheap after they fixed the dam and refilled it they were selling for 20 times what they were bought for. Keep and Eye on that. I wonder if a private party could fund the dam and stimulate that process after making some calculated real estate purchases. It would have to be done with the State's blessing, since it's being build on public property, but if they're looking for a new dam, and the property owners are looking to increase the value of their land, it would seem to be win/win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBBaron Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 This will kill the already dismal economy in that area but they need to do something. Last 5 or so times i have taken my boat out there the people with me (and myself) wont even get in the water. Hard to have fun with a boat out there when all you do is drive around the pond ten times get bored and call it a day.I agree about killing the local economy, however repairing the dam is not going to improve water quality. Lake water quality is primarily due to upstream and shoreline conditions in addition to lake depth. Since the tributaries will still be draining a fairly small area of mostly agriculture the problems will remain. Seems the dam problem is caused mostly by bad decisions about development. The reason for the lake no longer exists and it seems to be of poor health. Maybe it is best to return the stream to its natural flow. Compensating residents and businesses for loss in property values and incomes would be the biggest barricade. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I wonder if a private party could fund the dam and stimulate that process after making some calculated real estate purchases. It would have to be done with the State's blessing, since it's being build on public property, but if they're looking for a new dam, and the property owners are looking to increase the value of their land, it would seem to be win/win.Waterway of the United States gives the Army Corps of Engineers authority for approval of another Dam. This would become a beaurocratic mess. We are working on some dam spillway improvements for CBus, and we got shutdown just before starting work. They forgot to get the plans approved by ODNR and Army Corps prior to bid. We have been shutdown for months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Or carve out a new deeper lake that's worthy, and dump the soil into nice new home lots on water-front canals. Waiting for conservationists to scream about the cranberry bog.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I agree about killing the local economy, however repairing the dam is not going to improve water quality. Lake water quality is primarily due to upstream and shoreline conditions in addition to lake depth. Since the tributaries will still be draining a fairly small area of mostly agriculture the problems will remain. Seems the dam problem is caused mostly by bad decisions about development. The reason for the lake no longer exists and it seems to be of poor health. Maybe it is best to return the stream to its natural flow. Compensating residents and businesses for loss in property values and incomes would be the biggest barricade. CraigWatched a good show about taking dam's out across america on Netflix. Was a interesting documentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 No compensation. It's a risk you take when you cram houses inches from one another and pay huge dollars for your mosquito-bogg view. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Watched a good show about taking dam's out across america on Netflix. Was a interesting documentary. Can you give me the title? I am fascinated with dams, always have been. When I was studying in China we saw one of their mega dams up close on a tour boat on the way to a Buddhist monastery and I wanted to get closer, until I realized that the current would suck us in in about 10 seconds. Was nuts/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyone Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 "Bombing Hitlers Dams" is the only thing I find on a netflix search.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBBaron Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 No compensation. It's a risk you take when you cram houses inches from one another and pay huge dollars for your mosquito-bogg view.The Libertarian in me agrees 100%, but that is not how things work in the US.Property owners around the lake will sue, and it is going to cost the state law fees at the minimum in compensation. Probably going to be costly law suits just because they kept the flood gates open this spring. There is no cheap way out of the mess at this point. My guess is that some temporary fix will be employed that maintains the lake. Then that temporary fix will end up be permanent until it reaches crisis level again. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 "Bombing Hitlers Dams" is the only thing I find on a netflix search..already watched that. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 The Libertarian in me agrees 100%, but that is not how things work in the US.Property owners around the lake will sue, and it is going to cost the state law fees at the minimum in compensation. Probably going to be costly law suits just because they kept the flood gates open this spring. There is no cheap way out of the mess at this point. My guess is that some temporary fix will be employed that maintains the lake. Then that temporary fix will end up be permanent until it reaches crisis level again. Craig +1 to all of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Can you give me the title? I am fascinated with dams, always have been. When I was studying in China we saw one of their mega dams up close on a tour boat on the way to a Buddhist monastery and I wanted to get closer, until I realized that the current would suck us in in about 10 seconds. Was nuts/ Damnation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 TY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I can't help but wonder if someone high up is pulling strings tomake the land available for development at a later date andstructuring a deal to buy the land at a very discounted rate oncethe lake is drained. Just a thought. I don't trust anything thegovernment tries to get us to believe. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I can't help but wonder if someone high up is pulling strings tomake the land available for development at a later date andstructuring a deal to buy the land at a very discounted rate oncethe lake is drained. Just a thought. I don't trust anything thegovernment tries to get us to believe. . Don't you work for the government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAC Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I actually feel for the homeowners in that situation. I'm sure most bought in without any knowledge of the situation.As to the lawsuits and stuff, I would bet that's why the ACofE was brought in. It would be kind of hard to argue with their take - especially if they have no skin in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodninja420 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 I can't help but wonder if someone high up is pulling strings tomake the land available for development at a later date andstructuring a deal to buy the land at a very discounted rate oncethe lake is drained. Just a thought. I don't trust anything thegovernment tries to get us to believe..Isn't this the plot of Chinatown? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 http://www.nbc4i.com/story/28526566/state-officials-prepare-for-dam-failure-possibilities?par=nbcnews&site=nbcnews.com&cm_ven=nbcnews&cm_cat=Article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Street Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Now that real estate values in the area are getting ready to tank. (If they haven't already)Wonder who is going to snap up the properties and what it will look like in five years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Buckeye Lake dam will get rebuilt. It will take two or three years. Water level will remain at low Winter levels until done. http://www.outdoornews.com/April-2015/Buckeye-Lake-dam-will-be-replaced/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 There was never really any doubt that they would repair it. 2 to 3 years to complete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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