redkow97 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 aren't we all just splitting hairs and definitions here? Of course religion (nearly all of them) has been used to rationalize a billion different horrible acts. I think religions are dangerous because people follow them so blindly, and the founders they hold in such high regard are not around to correct or qualify past statements or writings. Hell, 90% of christianity is 'the inspired word of god.' That's the polite way of saying some dude made it up, and then the church endorsed it as the word of god later. The other 10% is (supposedly) first-hand observations written down by apostles, and then I guess technically the 10 commandments were literally etched in stone by 'god' as he appeared to moses as a burning bush. (totally rational and legit) My knowledge of basic islamic tenants is lacking, but my guess is that allah doesn't have a whole lot to say, and the 'prophet mohamed' got to make up whatever he wanted. When those words were recorded is anybody's guess. God may not be bullshit. I'm not prepared to completely dismiss the possibility of a higher power - but religion is pure and utter shit. Religion is men scaring other men into an ideology using god as a tool of fear. I do not lack faith in 'god,' i lack faith in man. People who place their faith in the wrong men will always be dangerous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 .003 percent of all Muslims are terrorists and commit only 2 percent of all terrorist acts. Bet the numbers are way higher for bikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 commit only 2 percent of all terrorist acts. Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Source? http://bfy.tw/2xBM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Religion of Peace? LOL As long as there is any religion there can never be peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 http://bfy.tw/2xBMI see what you did there. The thing about numbers like you are stating is they can be massaged to show many different outcomes. What is considered a terrorist attack? What type of violent crimes are being lumped in as a terrorist attack? Foreign or domestic? Is it for a specific country of region? Many countries are plagued with violent crimes that many would not consider terrorism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I see what you did there. I almost Lemon Party'd you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) .003 percent of all Muslims are terrorists and commit only 2 percent of all terrorist acts. Bet the numbers are way higher for bikers.6% in the USA per FBI stats2.11% of USA population (2014)ergo 2.8 times more likely to commit terrorism edited with more up to date data - population was 0.1% in 2010 Edited November 24, 2015 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 6% in the USA per FBI stats I am good with that number. Isn't the number 7% for Jews? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 i'm always right i don't know why you guys continue to argue after i post in threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 i'm always right i don't know why you guys continue to argue after i post in threads. Didn't see your post. Guessing I have you on ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 it's ok, we all make mistakes when we're young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Not sure I feel any better about this terror chart and wonder what event's they're counting.What percentage of foiled terror plots are muslims, maybe they just suck at it?So the message is they are only 2-6% so why try to stop them at all? When they do hit It's pretty hard. Compared to other groups onesie twosies. And look at the latino slice... What's the terror acts to population % ratio for muslims...? Edited November 24, 2015 by motocat12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 So liberals are more dangerous than Muslims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Without the supporting data the chart isn't useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 It was the second link that I sent you to. If you didn't read it that is on you. We are not responsible for educating you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Not sure I feel any better about this terror chart and wonder what event's they're counting.What percentage of foiled terror plots are muslims, maybe they just suck at it?So the message is they are only 2-6% so why try to stop them at all? When they do hit It's pretty hard. Compared to other groups onesie twosies. And look at the latino slice... What's the terror acts to population % ratio for muslims...? This article exains this chart. The 42% of Latino attacks accounted for 7 deaths. The 6% of Islamist attacks accounted for over 3,000 deaths. So...this chart is misleading, and it would appear intentionally so. Political graffiti by a Latino group was considered as 1 act of terror. 9/11 was also considered 1 act of terror. They don't quite equate, do they? http://www.rawstory.com/2015/01/no-americas-terror-threat-is-not-coming-from-latinos/ Edited November 24, 2015 by Tpoppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well I'm glad to see Tony Ortega has found a new religion to hate. It has proven to be a lucrative career for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I defended the Latinos against your smear campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Other than the fact that I said nothing about Latinos great point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 And when I said Tony Ortega, I didn't mean you. I ment the author of that pile of poo you linked to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) FBI still says they worry more about tree-hugging domestic terrorists. They hold the record for monetary loss, apparently. Most of the data doesn't mean much, if it's not per capita and totals of damage or deaths. But basically, if it's not one, it's the other. Just have to live with it and do what we can. edit: found a chart of incidents of domestic vs foriegn over time. It goes back and forth, with foriegn terrorism slightly higher in the beginning, once in the middle, and again currently. And both are going up in number of incidents. Edited December 5, 2015 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ReconRat Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 (edited) Interesting side effect. Sales of firearms increased (again) in response. But the interest in scarey "assault rifles" has been dropping since the peak after the attempted ban of AR-15s and kin. Sales of such are continuing to drop. It's an interest in handguns now, for personal protection, and has a large increase in first time buyers (again). People are taking the situation personally, and more seriously. edit: And yes, there was a knife attack in gun-less Britain, after the commitment to airstrikes in Syria by the British military. Britain says their terrorist threat level is very high. Connections have been discovered between France and places in Britain. Edited December 6, 2015 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 I need more ammo, I am good on boom sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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