yoshiii Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 5 hours ago, hiro said: Was this mentioned before? http://www.racersedge411.com/ Their advert says payments OK with 20% down. I don't know much about the place though. I saw the Buell on there yesterday bu than I found one on craigslist for 1700 dollars. Tried calling some sellers yesterday, no answer. Will try again. Racersedge just allows you to pay on the bike and they will hold it until its completely paid off. But many of the bikes have salvage titles and you have to fix it and get it registered. Dont have the extra money to try to turn a salvage title into a clear title. I dont know whats involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawlins87 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 ^Bell blasts make great bikes too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 18 hours ago, yoshiii said: I saw the Buell on there yesterday bu than I found one on craigslist for 1700 dollars. Tried calling some sellers yesterday, no answer. Will try again. Racersedge just allows you to pay on the bike and they will hold it until its completely paid off. But many of the bikes have salvage titles and you have to fix it and get it registered. Dont have the extra money to try to turn a salvage title into a clear title. I dont know whats involved. Salvage title bikes are also more difficult/expensive to insure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durk Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 17 minutes ago, CrazySkullCrusher said: Salvage title bikes are also more difficult/expensive to insure. When I was looking into getting the 1000rr there was a salvage titled bike I had some interest in. My insurance company said they'd insure it but it would be the same price to cover it as a clear titled bike. However, if something happened they would not give me as much money/value for it. So pay the same price for a bike valued at say $5500 but only have a replacement value of $3000-$2500. The 2500-3000 is just a number I'm throwing out there because they would not give me a hard number, it could be even lower. I passed on it. If your not going to put full coverage on the it may be an okay way to go. Realize you will take a hit on the resale value as well on a salvage title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 The SV650 is worth the few extra $ compared to the rest of the bikes discussed, all else being equal. No comparison. My $.02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiro Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 hour ago, durk said: When I was looking into getting the 1000rr there was a salvage titled bike I had some interest in. My insurance company said they'd insure it but it would be the same price to cover it as a clear titled bike. However, if something happened they would not give me as much money/value for it. So pay the same price for a bike valued at say $5500 but only have a replacement value of $3000-$2500. The 2500-3000 is just a number I'm throwing out there because they would not give me a hard number, it could be even lower. I passed on it. If your not going to put full coverage on the it may be an okay way to go. Realize you will take a hit on the resale value as well on a salvage title. Wow, good to know in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiro Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Qman said: The SV650 is worth the few extra $ compared to the rest of the bikes discussed, all else being equal. No comparison. My $.02. Yeah, I'd have to say, save up longer. Or maybe finance a new, left-over with a special deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 23 hours ago, durk said: When I was looking into getting the 1000rr there was a salvage titled bike I had some interest in. My insurance company said they'd insure it but it would be the same price to cover it as a clear titled bike. However, if something happened they would not give me as much money/value for it. So pay the same price for a bike valued at say $5500 but only have a replacement value of $3000-$2500. The 2500-3000 is just a number I'm throwing out there because they would not give me a hard number, it could be even lower. I passed on it. If your not going to put full coverage on the it may be an okay way to go. Realize you will take a hit on the resale value as well on a salvage title. I was going to buy a Savage title car a few years ago and my insurance company said they would not cover any salvage vehicle. I'm sure policy varies between companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 On 5/30/2017 at 8:04 AM, CrazySkullCrusher said: Buy that $1400 ex500 and call it a day. That bike is in your price range, doesn't look too abused, was probably dropped once or twice but almost any used starter bike has been dropped. Ex500 is enough power that you won't get bored of it but forgiving enough that a new rider won't get himself into serious trouble. Agree. An EX500 was my first bike, and while it is definitely enough power and weight to get you into trouble, it's also not going to leave you bored any time soon. I wish I had never sold mine. I've had 5 or 6 bikes since the EX, and while others were faster, better-looking, fuel-injected, etc., the EX500 was stupid cheap to maintain, and more than adequate for street riding. The only time it ever felt slow was with a passenger (and then it felt lightning quick after the passenger was gone), or after I spent a weekend at the track on my F2. usable torque, enough top-end (I think it would legitimately do 115), comfortable riding position... There's a lot to like, so long as you're not concerned w/ looks. That said, I saw a guy put a small vinyl decal on his headlight. It mimicked the shape of the newer Kawasaki headlights. Totally changed the look of the bike. Vast improvement. Probably cost $3 in vinyl adhesive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Mine was a 1980 kawi 550 LTD 21 years ago. Great learner bike. I was 12 and couldn't reach the ground, had to start/stop next to a cement block in the yard, or jogging alongside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiro Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 My insurance company raises rates starting at 501cc, so a 500 is that much more practical on a budget. I think a CBR 500 is only 471cc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 My insurance company charges around $100/yr regardless of the bikes I have on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinNck1 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 I think age and experience of the rider is just as much of a factor as the bike size. My insurance dropped a good bit when I turned 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 I wouldn't put an aftermarket exhaust on an EX500. The sewing machine engine note is appreciated by your neighbors when you're warning it up before work. My brother had spark plugs smashed on his bike 2 or 3 times. Can only assume it was because his F1 pipes were crazy loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Guess I did it the wrong way, started off of a fully stage 3 jetted and tuned GSXR 750, then went to the TL1000S, then the Vstrom and at last my C14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 5 hours ago, 2talltim said: Guess I did it the wrong way, started off of a fully stage 3 jetted and tuned GSXR 750, then went to the TL1000S, then the Vstrom and at last my C14. Similar...started out on a CB700SC Nighthawk S, then vfr, blackbird, R6, FJR, another Vfr, R1200GS, R1200GSA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 7 hours ago, Isaac's Papa said: Vance&Hines!! My second bike was a TL1000S. It was terrifying and awesome and a piece of shit, all at the same time. My 4th or 5th bike was a TL1000. It was a beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiro Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 21 hours ago, redkow97 said: I wouldn't put an aftermarket exhaust on an EX500. Needs two pipes, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, hiro said: Needs two pipes, too. There are 2-into-1 systems, but most require removal of the center stand. Plus they're loud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xsr900Rider Posted June 3, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) I am 6'3" started on a 600 f4i and next to a GSXR1000. I did ok but also spent a ton of saddle time on that 600 and then dropped a tooth on front sprocket and raised two on the back before jumping to 1000. I had another Marine Sgt tell me in Iraq that he got back he was buying the same GSXR I had. I asked how much ride time you have and his reply was "never ridden but I'll pick it up quick". I suggested that he started on something a bit smaller to start and get his throttle control and basics in cement before the 1000 comes home. Of course I was a lower rank at that point so my opinion meant squat to him. So we return and went on our leave for a few weeks after being cleared by the docs. When we returned the same guy calls me and asks me to swing by his garage. I am thinking he wants to rub in my face he has a bike and he didn't need my opinion. Instead he walks me in a garage where I find a completely mangled GXSR1000. Instead wanted to know if I could fix it. Basically he bought one wrecked it leaving dealer (to much throttle and dropped it) dealer tacks couple grand on and gives him another new bike and his brother rides it home. Before returning to base he was riding and gave some throttle and bike wheelies high and he hits at least 80 before loosing control and ditching tossing the brand new bike down the road. Luckily his pride was the only harm done to him or bystanders but a new bike looked like a junkyard find. Sorry for the long post but in my opinion and lots of others shared above bikes with loads of torque and HP do not make first bikes as they are unforgiving. You may make it out alive but at the end of the day it's your life unless you are unfortunate enough to ride it into another motorist. If you start smaller and need to move up the small loss you may take on a bike to move up is less than the potential medical bills if you get above your skill level to soon. Edited June 3, 2017 by Xsr900Rider 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer_kaw Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 On 5/29/2017 at 7:36 PM, yoshiii said: How is it in the low gears. One of the problems I had with the 250 Suzuki's in the MRC was that in first gear it sucked going slow and I had trouble with slow maneuvers unless I put the bike into 2nd gear. I think that is one of the reasons also that the instructor suggested a bigger bike. I am tall and will the ninja 250 be comfortable? I dont want to be uncomfortable riding otherwise it will make it not good for me riding the bike and and will cause problems with me learning to ride better. I want to get a R3 because it fits me well but need more money Odds are good if that 250 was jerky while doing low speed maneuvers you just haven't got your clutch control under control. Those little engines have a lot of pulse so if your not smooth on the clutch you're gonna feel it at the wheel. Do the same on a powerful bike and it will take off and leave you behind. Basics are much easier to learn on a smaller more forgiving bike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiro Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Xsr900Rider said: I am 6'3" started on a 600 f4i and next to a GSXR1000. How does the XSR 900 compare to the Gixxer 1000 and the F4i? I like how the Yamaha looks like a big engine with some extras like wheels attached to it. ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xsr900Rider Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 So the XSR 900 honestly feels very quick but not the top speed of a gsxr1000 but still plenty of power to get you in trouble if your inexperienced. I guess I'd compare it too the f4i with the sprocket conversion which made it a wheelie machine but that power is now available pretty much at any RPM. I run A mode with TC on 1 all the time and I never feel like I need more. I like to seating position and everything about the ergonomics except my knees almost don't fit in the tank cut outs but it is close enough that I don't mind. Hope that helps, it is definitely a fun ride but not quite a 1000cc level of crazy but not as tame as a f4i either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiro Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 4:01 PM, magley64 said: My insurance company charges around $100/yr regardless of the bikes I have on it. Which company is that? I'm going to need a new company if I leave the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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