Wease Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 At Dynotune Motorsports yesterday, with just an off road h-pipe, Flowmaster catback, BBK underdrive pullies, and 3.73's, I put down 198 RWHP and 271 RWTQ. Not bad for an almost stock, 93K mile, 18 year old, Four-Eyed Fox Body. Thanks go out to Brian and Howard, they are very professional and run a great business. Thanks again, fellas... graemlins/thumb.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boost-n-Juice Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Whooo Whooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Wease what does your ws6 lay down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wease Posted October 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Originally posted by MackZilla: Wease what does your ws6 lay down? 383 RWHP / 383 RWTQ with a cam, custom true dual exhaust, most bolt on's, stock heads, all motor... smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Niiiiice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96MustangCobra Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 nice nnumbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06busa Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Not too bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolen 5.0 Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 nice #'s sean, i want to see what it runs at norwalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan900 Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Nice numbers Sean. So how long before you really start modding it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 good looking car sean, i'll line up with ya at norwalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by Waiting for Car Enthusiast: good looking car sean, i'll lose my ass to ya at norwalk Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackbar00 Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Nice numbers cheif! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck531 Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Ha, my freakin' 6 cylnder 3.8 NA car put down more than a v8!! WOOT! Hehe.. actually, I put down 199.6 hp and 205 tq or so. That was with my 18's on. If I didn't have those though.. I'd be around 205. Good job though! smile.gif . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wease Posted October 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by Buck531: Ha, my freakin' 6 cylnder 3.8 NA car put down more than a v8!! WOOT!More horsepower, barely. Don't forget, horsepower sells, but torque wins races... graemlins/thumb.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck531 Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by Wease: More horsepower, barely. Don't forget, horsepower sells, but torque wins races... graemlins/thumb.gif Yep, but point is.. you have 8 clynders, I have 6.. boo-ya! graemlins/grin2.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wease Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Originally posted by Buck531: Yep, but point is.. you have 8 clynders, I have 6.. boo-ya! graemlins/grin2.gif Talk it up, prove how bad the Lumina is at Norwalk... tongue.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief8one Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Is it 'normal' for the 5.0's to have that much torque compared to the HP or is that just what happened with the combo of mods you have? What would a decent to good running stock one dyno at? What's stock gearing? TIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I think it is typical of 80's American cars to have alot more torque than horsepower, TPI cars, Mustangs, Buicks they all had low horsepower but alot more torque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 totally normal, my car when stock regularly makes 190rwhp 260-270 rwtq, v-8's do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wease Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Originally posted by Neo: Is it 'normal' for the 5.0's to have that much torque compared to the HP or is that just what happened with the combo of mods you have? What would a decent to good running stock one dyno at? What's stock gearing?Yes, it's normal for 5.0's to have much more torque that horsepower. Just driving that car is evident. It pulls pretty good up until about 4K then dies off rather quickly. Brian told me a totally stock '86 5.0 would dyno around 180 RWHP. I don't know if he said anything about the torque, I can't remember. So by putting down nearly 200 with just an off road h-pipe, Flowmaster mufflers, pullies, and the air silencer removed, those are pretty good numbers. Don't forget (you might not know this, but I'm telling you anyway), the '86 was the first year for the 5.0 EFI. It used some crappy head design which robbed the engine of a lot of power up top. Hence the 87 - 93 cars had new heads and were rated at 225/300. I have a free set of those E7 heads (87 - up), and those along with a better intake (Cobra/GT-40) and a CAI will put down 250+ RWHP / 300+ RWTQ. Brian has done this with his '86 GT. I've also seen the thing run 12's on that setup, on snow tires! Stock gearing in my car was a pathetic 2.73. You could also have gotten 3.27 gears in the 5 speed. The autos came with 3.08's. smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Nice Sean.. Need to bring it out some night. smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Originally posted by mesteno: Cars that have that kind of rod:stroke ratio, good VE down low and don't spin up very high do that.Fixed. tongue.gif It's not just V8's, but that's how they seem to generally be designed. If you designed an I-4 or even a 'normal' sized V6 like this you would have such a small amount of HP it wouldn't be useable. That's probably why they generally design V8/larger displacement engines for torque down low and not hp up high and don't design smaller engines to do this, they will still make a useable amount of HP. HP in it's simplest view is a product of how big the engine is and how fast the engine is spinning. I just wasn't aware that the 5.0's, and apparently earlier modular engines were 'torque monsters'. When you put a power adder, esp. turbo or non-centrifugal blower, things change a lot. "Crappy Heads" seem to mean "bad flow", but that means they will be more restriction down low and make more torque. I didn't know that about the different heads, first year for EFI and gears on the Fox-Bodies Wease, thanks. graemlins/thumb.gif Actually I know I've asked people numerous times about the gears, but I just forget stuff easily. tongue.gif Yeah, I knew about Brian's primer car on spray and snow tires, but I didn't know what all was done to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck531 Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Originally posted by Wease: Talk it up, prove how bad the Lumina is at Norwalk... tongue.gif I'll be at Norwalk ONLY if this Saturday gets rained out in Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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