Crash1647545504 Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 now that everything in my car runs..... get intercooler piping and a small mildly damages front mount installed? or new springs, struts and sway bars front and rear 2.25 drop in the front 2.0 drop in the rear and great quality struts (will cost less that 200) keeping in mind my springs now are rusting and i have 1 blown strut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest infamous me 235 Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Originally posted by Theoretic: new springs, struts and sway bars front and rear 2.25 drop in the front 2.0 drop in the rear and great quality struts (will cost less that 200) keeping in mind my springs now are rusting and i have 1 blown strutThat's what i'd do especially if one's already busted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 New springs/struts. You'll chew up tires before you'll be able to realize any benefit from the new piping and IC. It's like saying "Should I supercharge, or get a front end alignment?" Do the necessary maintenance first before you do anymore BPUs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 its obvious ben, you said the front mount is slightly damaged, so don't put a damaged part on your car, and you say that your struts are already bad so upgrade em while you fix, its easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 are you AWD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 If you’re going to do the suspension do it right and get a poly. bushings kit, from talking to others and people at Road Race Engineering (RRE) these can do just as much to make these cars handle better as a spring/strut upgrade. IIRC the lower sway bar in the front is fine (1G AWD), just buy the rear. If you think you can do the suspension 'right' with the same amount of money you were going to spend on a used/slightly damaged front mount w/hard pipes you need to do some more research. According to RRE's prices: KYB AGX struts=$475 Springs~$200 (didn't see any 1G spring kit on RRE's website) Suspension Techniques Rear Sway Bar=$130 Energy Suspension Bushing Kits=$130 475+200+130+130=$935 Plus whatever for a full alignment. We'll round off to a $1k to do it 'right'. This is basically what one of their gurus suggested to me when I called them. Throw in strut tower bars to go 'all out' and that’s another ~$200 (I really don't know if both, if any are generally suggested). I would highly suggest doing suspension if you are happy with the speed right now from your 14B and have done all maintenance. Just my general feeling and opinion, but the straight line speed you would get from that money won't make your car nearly as much more 'fun' as the suspension. Especially if your suspension is shot right now. Also keep in mind tires make all the difference in the world. Please don’t take offense to this. I think you need to start reading ALOT about these cars if you are going to take full advantage of it, I know you are new to them and are trying, that’s why you posted this. There is a TON of information out there about these cars already, take advantage of that. I'm also not a huge fan of front mounts on these cars becuase of how hot they run and I'm more of a road race oriented person, but I think I'm in the minority on this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Originally posted by iwishiwascool: are you AWD?I assumed and am pretty sure he is. Although the only thing I think that would change about my post (if he is FWD) is that he could use a front lower sway bar ($109) and the bushing kit is $10 cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash1647545504 Posted July 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 well if i do the suspention its not gonna cost me a whole lot because im getting free monro struts (same type we used on the Comaro before we went to coilovers) and a discount on springs and i do all the instalation myself. and i actualy already have a bushing kit sitting around someplace yep im AWD, the front mount that i have just has minor damage its not visible and i tested it for any leaks. but i was unsure of the gains i would get from IC piping an a front mount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balian Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 hmm..I think this one is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verse Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Change all fluids, do a tune up, new air filter, fuel filter, new struts, new springs, sway bars. That would be the order I'd run things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash1647545504 Posted July 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 matanace is all taken car of.... for now, im just praying that nothing brakes in the next week so i can order my stuff haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Originally posted by Theoretic: well if i do the suspention its not gonna cost me a whole lot because im getting free monro struts (same type we used on the Comaro before we went to coilovers) and a discount on springs and i do all the instalation myself. and i actualy already have a bushing kit sitting around someplace yep im AWD, the front mount that i have just has minor damage its not visible and i tested it for any leaks. but i was unsure of the gains i would get from IC piping an a front mountSounds like you can do the suspension 'right' for not that much money, this one's a no-brainer if you ask me. You might see some gains from a front mount and piping, but nothing like you'd see going from a bad suspension to a good aftermarket one. Are the struts your going to get basically OEM replacements? Just wondering, the whole blowing them out because of spring rate issue ya know, I guess if that happens after six months your not out anything but will need to buy new, better (read KYB AGX) struts. People over on CbusDSM might be able to more realistically tell you the gains of that front mount and piping better than I, but if your piping and IC isn't leaking now I don't think you'd see that much from it. Have you done the timing belt (and associated bits)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash1647545504 Posted July 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Yea Pretty much OEM replacements but they are very good quality struts. right now it has intrax springs and KYB struts and those are what is blown right now. timing belt wa one of the first things i fixed [ 15. July 2004, 09:48 PM: Message edited by: Theoretic ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Originally posted by Theoretic: Yea Pretty much OEM replacements but they are very good quality struts. right now it has intrax springs and KYB AGX struts and those are what is blown right now.That's odd maybe intrax springs are crap or thoes struts are really old, I've heard nothing but good things about thoes struts? Originally posted by Theoretic: timing belt wa one of the first things i fixedgraemlins/thumb.gif What all do you have done performance wise right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash1647545504 Posted July 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 yea they looked pretty old 14b ported , manual boost controler 18psi, ACT 2100 clutch, 255lph. i ran 13.2@103 and change in indianapolis couple weeks ago [ 15. July 2004, 09:47 PM: Message edited by: Theoretic ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owndjoo Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 ok, that 14b is just ported, and the struts are stock. i dont know where u got the ideas of clipped and AGX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 you would be faster with a 190lph pump. too many kids run the 255 and get bogged down with fuel. I run my 16g at 25psi with a 50 shot on my 190 with no fuel issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owndjoo Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 or just get a AFPR and turn down the pressure. but a 190 would work much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 85 dollar pump.... $250 fpr. decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash1647545504 Posted July 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 i thought you said cliped also, and those are KYB struts on there they say KYB right on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessOP Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Originally posted by Theoretic: i thought you said cliped also, and those are KYB struts on there they say KYB right on themAGX struts/shocks are adjustable. the standard KYBs are not... smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash1647545504 Posted July 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 ahhh thanks for clearing that up... they are just standard then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jpurdy2003 Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 I have KYB GR2 struts which, from my understanding, are non-adjustable performance struts. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el aguila Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Suspension..these cars handle like shit from the factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest h23it Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 Personally, I have more fun dropping into a corner at triple digits than going 0-60, so I would go with suspension. The change you will see going from stock busted suspension to good aftermarket suspension will be huge. But it all really depends on what you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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