excell Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 I'm dumb when it comes to the diffrent models and brands of turbo's out there. Help me. Turbo #1: T04E Turbo #2: T64 What we lookin at here? Thanks. smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
controler Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 T04E has several different compressors... please specify. T64 is bigger than the biggest T04E. Compressor maps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted March 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Originally posted by controler: T04E has several different compressors... please specify. T64 is bigger than the biggest T04E. Compressor maps Whoops, sorry. T04E .71AR... does that sound right? smile.gif Where you turbo guys at! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraGlue Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Originally posted by Ludicrous Speed: Whoops, sorry. T04E .71AR... does that sound right? smile.gif Where you turbo guys at! Nope. You need to know the compressor trim, though the AR is a useful number as well. Here's the deal -- the T04E could flow enough air at high boost for anywhere from ~330rwhp to 500rwhp depending on compressor trim. The T64 is a much bigger turbo. It's going to be capable of flowing over 600rwhp of air at high boost. Now, you didn't mention the exhaust sides of either of them -- that will affect spool. It's important to also know what kind of engines they would go on, and what maximum boost can be run. A turbo that is entirely appropriate for let's say a five liter V8 might not be a wise choice for a two liter DSM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20G TSi Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Originally posted by Master Yota: A turbo that is entirely appropriate for let's say a five liter V8 might not be a wise choice for a two liter DSM. depends on your idea of "appropriate", I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraGlue Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Originally posted by Jasons TSi: depends on your idea of "appropriate", I guess Might also depend on your idea of "compressor surge". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted March 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 A lot of that I do not know... everything I know about these two turbo's is in here. I'll dig the guy and see if I can find out more... What motor? Let's just say a 3.8l 231ci 3800 Series II. Here are the pics of the T04E he is using: http://www.lynoise.com/images/Dyno/020503/Turbo1.jpg http://www.lynoise.com/images/Dyno/020503/Turbo2.jpg http://www.lynoise.com/images/Dyno/020503/Turbo3.jpg http://www.lynoise.com/images/Dyno/020503/Turbo4.jpg http://www.lynoise.com/images/Dyno/020503/Turbo5.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraGlue Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Given the size of the inlet and outlet, my guess would be a 60-1. Which, being the biggest of the current T04E line, would put the output in the 450-500fwhp range at high boost with tuning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted March 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Originally posted by Master Yota: Given the size of the inlet and outlet, my guess would be a 60-1. Which, being the biggest of the current T04E line, would put the output in the 450-500fwhp range at high boost with tuning. You are the mack daddy. If I can find out more I'll post it. smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondAddiction Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 its about time someone else decided to finally turbo a GTP and take off the supercharger i was wondering if the intake manifold from the 3.8 series II on an F-body would fit since the inlet is on the other side making it easier to do the turbo set up with an intercooler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinHawk1647545499 Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 what are you planning anyways forget those dinky turbos and use a Man size turbo like a T-76 or bigger....Are you man enough or have the cubes to push this. http://www.cofba.org/users/smokinhawk/TurboBeast-pics/trbodia.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest relvinnian Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 You cannot base your assumption on inlet and outlet! 60-1 and 62-1 both have a 4" inlet, but so does the "50"-trim, which is a high boost turbo, with airflow capabilities matching a built 1.6 - 2.0l engine. I can't see any of the pictures, so I cannot comment, but I thought you should be aware. The only TRUE way to know the turbo's compressor performance is to measure the a/r, inducer, major, and inlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraGlue Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 Originally posted by relvinnian: You cannot base your assumption on inlet and outlet! 60-1 and 62-1 both have a 4" inlet, but so does the "50"-trim, which is a high boost turbo, with airflow capabilities matching a built 1.6 - 2.0l engine. I can't see any of the pictures, so I cannot comment, but I thought you should be aware. The only TRUE way to know the turbo's compressor performance is to measure the a/r, inducer, major, and inlet. I totally agree. I was just assuming that he was trying to figure out what other people's setups were going to be able to do ballpark-wise. BTW, I was told that the 62-1 was discontinued. Oh, and smokinHawk -- the T72 has a better peak efficiency island and better surge line than a 76. The only reason a 76 needs cubes is because the inferior surge line precludes it's use on a smaller engine. tongue.gif (People make over 700 at the wheels with a T72, and over 900 at the wheels with a T74 on some poor little old 3.0 liter. I'd recommend one of those instead. tongue.gif ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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