Mallard Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 OK, so last summer my brakes were squealing like crazy, I took it in and they said I needed new rotors. So I got new front rotors and pads. Only a few weeks after I got them they started squealing like crazy again. I'm getting fed up with them now. I feel like I'm driving a freaking COTA bus everytime I stop. I don't think I'm overly hard on brakes, I don't ride them and I put a lot of highway miles on the car. The guy at the dealer said that they squeal because they're metallic pads. Yeah...right. All the parts are only 9 months old. Anyone have any ideas? [ 26. April 2003, 03:56 PM: Message edited by: Slow L36 ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck531 Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 I had the same problem. What brand of brake pads are you putting on? I put Bendix pads on the front last year and I have never gotten a squeak out of them. W-body brakes suck anyways smile.gif . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slow4now Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 My guess is you are using AutoZone pads? Generally speaking aftermarket pads will squeal, I don't know how true it is for domestic vehicles but it is for imports. There is usually a reason the parts are cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevil Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 They probably didn't put the anti-squeal stuff on there. Seriously, when you get new pads for disc brakes, they give you little packets of some lubricant or something, for the back of the pads I think. Either that, or a wear indicator is bent and rubbing on the rotor maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted March 27, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Well, all the parts are factory, and all the work was done by the dealer. (They can do it much faster than I can and I can't afford to be without my daily driver for long) I'll have to check the wear indicators on the front along with the lubricant on the back of the pads that you mentioned. Someone else told me about that and I'm probably going to try that. I agree, W-Body brakes definately suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berto Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 i got hawk HP+ pads which are a track pad, they squeel when i come to a stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 get Bendix replacement pads way better tahn OE quiet too come with shims on them so you don't have to put the anti squaek goop on the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck531 Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 The anti-squeal stuff wears off. I just put the pads on and turned my rotors last year. Never had a problem. My factory brakes were complete shit on my Lumina. I took it back to the dealer about 4 times for the brakes. I ended up getting 3 new sets of pads and rotors before my warranty ran out smile.gif . When I brought it in on time for squealing, they told me it was brake dust and to mash the brake pedal every two weeks. (whatever.. dumabsses). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest powers Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 it is common to get squealing when your pad material is harder than needed. The harder the compound the highet operating temp they need to be at to work properlly. Also you could have a some rubbing caused by a calliper hanging or a hub out of round or may other things that can be checked that is glazing the rotor causing some squeel on stoping. You just have to go step by step. also most places give brake jobs to the newbies, so expect to get someone less experienced when having the dealer doing your brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest powers Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 Originally posted by 2 40's 2 Go: get Bendix replacement pads way better tahn OE quiet too come with shims on them so you don't have to put the anti squaek goop on the back BTW your still supposed to apply a layer of calliper grease between the shim and the pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted April 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 OK so heres an update: I took the car in to see if they'd replace any of the parts since they're only 9 months old. They told me I needed the front rotors turned and I needed new rear rotors, which they would not cover. Pads were fine, meaning no bent wear tabs and they're not glazed over. So heres the problem...after a week they're almost as bad as they were before!!!!!!! Both times the brakes were done the car was getting tires done a few days later. I got new tires the day after they re-did the brakes. Someone told me that if the lugnuts are over torqued that your rotors can warp, anyone have any experience with this? Is it possible that the tire place is fucking up my rotors everytime I go in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest badmuthrfkr Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 I had the Automotive Ninja do my brakes. No squeaks, squeals, just smiles. smile.gif What brand of brake parts are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted April 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Originally posted by Hua: I had the Automotive Ninja do my brakes. No squeaks, squeals, just smiles. smile.gif What brand of brake parts are you using? All OEM parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 take the pads out and look at them many OE pads like AC DELCO wich is what I'm assuming in your case are sqaure edged. you need to either A champer the leading and trailing edge of the pad or B buy a set from somewhere that carries pads that come that way. the dealer is not always the greatest place to have your car serviced I've had problems with chrysler or ask anthony about what the dealer did to his firebird. Bendix makes a pad called quietstop they are garunteed not to make noise but they also make alot of dust. also with the way rotors are anymore turning them is going to srew you in the long run cause there so thin to begin with. I would buy raybestos or bendix and do the work yourself then you'll know its right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck531 Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 If you want to buy the parts I'll put them on your car since I've done mine a few times. Listen to what people are saying on here. Stay away from stock shit. Like I said, I had my car at Jack Maxton 4 times for brakes. They replaced them every time, but it became such a hasle I just replaced the pads and WA-LA.. problem solved. I just did the rears a few weeks ago because the car was shimmying (is that a word) on the freeway. Bendix pads (in the front) are about $40 or so. It's well worth it. It will stop the squealing AND make your stopping better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted April 28, 2003 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 Originally posted by Buck531: If you want to buy the parts I'll put them on your car since I've done mine a few times. Listen to what people are saying on here. Stay away from stock shit. Like I said, I had my car at Jack Maxton 4 times for brakes. They replaced them every time, but it became such a hasle I just replaced the pads and WA-LA.. problem solved. I just did the rears a few weeks ago because the car was shimmying (is that a word) on the freeway. Bendix pads (in the front) are about $40 or so. It's well worth it. It will stop the squealing AND make your stopping better. Cool, that sounds like a good deal to me. I'll let you know in a week or so. The squeaking is intermittent so I'm not in as big a rush as I was at first. I'll send ya a PM when the time comes, and I'll buy the beer smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 Disc brakes are very easy to do, so don't be giving a dealer another dime for that work. It is possible to warp a rotor if the wheels are torqued severly unevenly or way too much....ON SOME CARS. Others you can tighten each lug nut to 120 ft/lb each and not warp a dang thing. With pads it's a balance between 4 things: - Wear - Noise - How well they grab - Dust There is no perfect brake pad out there; a pad is always gonna give up one (or more) traits to improve another. A racing type brake may grab really well, but may suffer in the noise and dust dept. I've always used that spray-on anti-squeal stuff when doing pads. Quick and easy. I have Performance Friction pads on my Formula, and they are quiet and don't produce much dust. I haven't checked how badly they are wearing. But their wet-weather ability sucks balls, badly. Rotors get wet, and they have about 1/2 the braking force they usually do when dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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