El Karacho1647545492 Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Last night (friday) myself and 3 friends were on our way to Mitch Hedberg on 270N right before Hamilton. As I swerved into the left lane to avoid someone cutting me off from the right lane, a Franklin Co. Sheriff turned on his headlights + spotlight. Thinking it was high beams from oncoming traffic, I was completely blinded and hit the brakes and went back to the right (I had to go back home to get something). As I got over to the exit ramp, the cop flicks on his flashers and pulls me over. Apparently I was doing 80 in the 65. I exercised my right to see the radar, and he showed me how the tracker works etc. (It is one that is dash-mounted and monitors speed from all cars). There are a couple problems with this ticket that I recieved. First of all, my dad's 530 (the car that I was driving at the time) has a speed warning that he has set to emit a loud "PING" if speeds reach 80 MPH. This PING was never emitted. Secondly, the cop said that when he locked onto my car, the speed supposedly only dropped to 78 MPH. There is no way this happened, because I slammed on the brakes when I was blinded by the lights. I am fighting this ticket because I've generally been a VERY cautious driver since my first ticket in July. I have a few questions Will this argument stand up in court if I have a signed statement of all 4 people in the car, including myself? Is there any inherent flaw in the tracking system of the particular speed tracking device, and would it contribute to a flaw in my ticketing? On a related subject, could this tracking device possibly track another vehicle then mistake me for that vehicle? EDIT: Disregard the comment in my sig, this is for real. EDIT: Read the end [ 31. January 2005, 03:58 PM: Message edited by: 10xworse ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger1647545502 Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 It sounds like he got you BEFORE he turned his lights on. Why would he fire up the flashers if he hadn't gotten you already? You were zapped before you even hit the brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe7 Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Get a traffic lawyer, thats your best bet.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted January 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Originally posted by Avenger: It sounds like he got you BEFORE he turned his lights on. Why would he fire up the flashers if he hadn't gotten you already? You were zapped before you even hit the brakes.I explained already though, if I had been going 80 (which his radar said) the speed sensor in the car would have let me know with the warning sound. Regardless, I was in the middle lane in moderate traffic, and then swerved in the left lane to avoid an accident, THEN he put on his spotlight and headlamps, but no flashers. There was a car ahead of me before anyone cut me off, and I know I wasn't doing 80 in moderate traffic in the middle lane, because people were passing me on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old dirty bastard Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Moved to the parking lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1qwk767 Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 the lawyer I had for my accident got alot of charges dropped and got my suspension cut from almost 3yrs to 6months he is a very expensive guy Koltak & Gibson, L.L.P 5 East Long Street Suite 100 Columbus Ohio 43215 Phone # (614) 221-7381 Peter Gibson handled my mess very nice guy will work with what you got Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessOP Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Originally posted by 10xworse: I explained already though, if I had been going 80 (which his radar said) the speed sensor in the car would have let me know with the warning sound.that's assuming the car's speedometer is 100% accurate... it's your word against his. i wouldn't expect to get off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old dirty bastard Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Originally posted by recklessOP: that's assuming the car's speedometer is 100% accurate... it's your word against his. i wouldn't expect to get off... What he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted January 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 I don't see how he could have gotten me though, because I was in the middle of traffic with cars almost surrounding me, and cars passing me, so I definitely wasn't doing 80. Also, I braked more than he said I did (aka, he thought I was doing 78 after he clocked me, leading me to believe that his tracking was incorrect) I'm just wondering if it is possible that the equipment messed up. Does that stuff have any major flaws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessOP Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Originally posted by 10xworse: Does that stuff have any major flaws?no, not really. it doesn't sound like you were too sure of your speed though if you were relying on that buzzer. he probably clocked you long before you saw him... how old was the cop? from what i understand, it takes quite a bit of training and practice to operate radar properly. if you take it to court, the prosecutor will more than likely have the officer describe his training for the judge, as well as the schedule and procedure for calibrating the gun. unless he slips up, you're probably toast. just be adament that you weren't speeding. i wouldn't bring up swerving to avoid that other car unless they ask you about it. with a prior ticket, i'm not sure how much a laywer is going to be able to help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jpurdy2003 Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 You can try to fight it, but you're probably screwed. In the eyes of nearly every traffic court judge, cops never lie or make mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted January 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Yeah this cop was experienced...i think he mentioned something about him being on the force for 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted January 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Originally posted by StreetRacer434: the lawyer I had for my accident got alot of charges dropped and got my suspension cut from almost 3yrs to 6months he is a very expensive guy Koltak & Gibson, L.L.P 5 East Long Street Suite 100 Columbus Ohio 43215 Phone # (614) 221-7381 Peter Gibson handled my mess very nice guy will work with what you gotThanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awfulcanawful Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 You say you werent doing 78 but I bet it was faster than 65 and thats still speeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crankshaft Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Originally posted by 10xworse: I'm just wondering if it is possible that the equipment messed up. Does that stuff have any major flaws? <font color ="midnightblue"> I remember reading somewhere, perhaps from something someone posted here on CR, that the radar guns today are really inacurrate, that they miss by some varying degree the majority of the time. But, the state governments don't change them because they bring in a large amount of revenue. I don't know how much credibility this article had, or even where it was from. I just vaguely remember reading it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Sign Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Originally posted by Folkvang: <font color ="midnightblue"> I remember reading somewhere, perhaps from something someone posted here on CR, that the radar guns today are really inacurrate, that they miss by some varying degree the majority of the time. But, the state governments don't change them because they bring in a large amount of revenue. I don't know how much credibility this article had, or even where it was from. I just vaguely remember reading it.Never heard that. Every car I have ever radar'd has a spedometer that is 3-5 mph optimistic. But being under 18, your screwed. Sorry. Attorney will run you ~750 per the ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Alright so i'm accepting the fact that I'm screwed, even though I don't believe for a minute I was speeding. I'll pay the damn ticket and even lawyer costs, but I need to keep SOME driving privileges because I can't lose my job. I may be a damn yuppie, but I am pretty self-reliant as far as money goes. Any suggestions on how to get provisional driving? I know my ex was able to do it for school and work, because like me both her parents work and are unable to drive her every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Thank you lord/ricochet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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