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brake pad question - '05 CBR600RR


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I'm just about to the point where I need to replace my brake pads. This will be the first replacement on this bike so I'm looking for some suggestions as to a specific brand/type of pad. Also, sintered or non-sintered? Thanks for the help!

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im going to break out my email...

brb

ok this is the owner of calsportbike.com, names todd, very knowledgeable and friendly guy. i recommend him to anyone.

my questions in italics his response:

Question: Galfer or EBC HH pads?

You sold me on the fact that galfer holds its friction longer per say than

ebc. if it were on a graph the friction line would be horizontal for galfer

and negative slope for ebc. i just dont have the facts to back it up.

can you help me out on this?

EBC pads have stronger initial bite since their higher copper content means

they build heat faster. But according to THEIR OWN marketing ads, their peak

friction rating is .6u. Galfer is .7u, or roughly 15% higher peak friction,

which means stopping power. However, Galfer uses higher ceramic content in

their sintered mix, meaning the pads cool faster thus they put less thermal

demand on the rotors, so they're more "rotor friendly" than EBC pads. Also,

a difference in feel comes because ceramic builds heat in a more linear

fashion, so some people THINK EBC pads are better, but it's a difference in

FEEL (only initial bite) not in peak performance. Like having a car geared

strong in 1st and 2nd but gets beat in the 1/4 mile, ya know?

O and am i correct in saying that rotors and pads have to be made by the

same company? For instance you can't get ebc pads with galfer rotors or

vice versa yes?

It's a very good idea to use rotors and pads from the same company in many

cases, mostly because they only warranty their components to work together.

Makes sense, because they would use THEIR pads to test on their rotors, so

Galfer, EBC, Ferodo, and others, tend to not want to warranty rotors if you

use someone else's pads. And quite right IMO.

one more question: can you compare the different series of galfer HH pads.

I know we had discussed this as well between the 1396 series and the 1375

series and whatever other HH line they have.

The one numbers that matter for you is 1375 versus 1370. 1396 is for offroad

applications basically. So the 1370 and 1375 are both bronze-based ceramic

compound. However the 1375 also adds a ceramic coated backing plate, which

is a heat barrier to lessen thermal bleed through to the caliper pistons and

thus the fluid. Any time you lower the temp of your fluid, the more you stay

away from the dreaded boiling point which causes total fluid degradation. So

this is why the 1375 compound is more expensive, but is much more popular

for track riders and serious sport riders who understand the facts about

braking performance.

Now, to help you understand that I'm not just cheerleading Galfer and

ignoring anything else...understand that I don't always run Galfer pads on

MY OWN bikes. In fact, my Ducati 888SPO has Ferodo XRAC pads on BrakeTech

Axis ductile iron rotors, which is a step UP from the Galfer setup. But the

iron rotors can stand up to the higher thermal demand of the XRAC pads.

And on my track bike, with a Brembo setup and 19x18 radial master cylinder,

I really loved the Galfer 1375HH pads since they complemented the way the

radial master applies a lot of force quickly. I actually tried Vesrah pads

(sort of between Ferodo and Galfer in friction) and they were too abrupt, so

I wanted a more linear feel for predictability in all conditions.

Hope this helps!

Best Regards,

Todd Robinson - Owner & GM

Cal-Sportbike * Toll Free (877) 234-5150 x3

http://www.calsportbike.com

sales@calsportbike.com

* Importer/Distributor of Speedo Healer Recalibrators

* Importer/Distributor of Gear Indicator Pro

* Distributor for Galfer Brakes

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Alright, thanks everyone for the help. I got Galfer pads for the CBR ($88.88 for all 3 sets) and EBC for the R1 ($76.00 for all 3 sets) from kneedraggers.com. Kneegraggers.com seems to have good prices compared to motorcycle-superstore and bikebandit. I figure this way I will be able to sample out both at the same time:banana:

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don't use the rear brake, problem solved :)

well if you really wanna be gutsy, teh back brake can solve your problems not create more.. :)

ie instead of chopping the throttle upsetting the suspension because your running wide a little bit of rear brake will fix it and tighten your line...

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i had a set of SBS pads, equal to the EBC HH. these pads were excellent. no bed in procedure and excellent performance. i have had a couple of sets of EBC HH's and after one track day they felt like two pieces of wood, no bite or feel. the SBS's are tough to find locally, but well worth the effort to locate (internet). the price is nice, too.

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