bigbluebird Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 as long as the rider was turning right he could drag a knee but the left side has a slight issue with the kickstand at over 40 degrees. of course if you take the stand off it might lean more on the left side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Dweez was comparing the Busa powerplant to the HD powerplant. Apples and oranges by a long shot. ...(some other stuff)...Buy what moves you. If big hp numbers are your thing then steer clear of HD. If spending $12k on an old technology Sportster is your thing then pull the trigger. If not' date=' buy a bullet proof, race proven Japanese sport bike for a 'moderate' amount of money. It's all relative.[/quote']Agreed. It's just easier to "move" something with more horses. Edited December 3, 2008 by JRMMiii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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exSRAaron Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 john tha thing is schweet!!I was personally very impressed when I first rode a VROD, compared to the old sportster's I had ridden..lean angle is still horrible tho! just thrown that in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 the way I see it... it matters not whats on the side of the tank, but whats under it.... and as long as you are on 2 wheels.... what difference does it make??? I ride with HD guys and metrics, I ride with cruisers and sportbikes.... it don't freakin matter what you ride it's how you ride that says alot about who you are....+1 You've also rode with a guy on a scooter Chris , as a matter of fact I recall blowin your doors off @ around 90mph (if bikes HAD doors) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoosego Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 +1 You've also rode with a guy on a scooter Chris ' date=' as a matter of fact I recall blowin your doors off @ around 90mph (if bikes HAD doors) [/quote']yea everything is faster then my heavy slow cruiser..... but I love my bike and it's super comfortable...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Moose isnt about HP, He is about 200 mi. rides in comfortat 35 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 The problem with the HD's is 75% of the people who ride them are complete assholes and tarnish the image for the rest of the riders that aren't assholes. And those 75% would rather walk then ride wih someone on a sport bike. I've lost count of how many times I've waved to someone on a HD and the rider just snuffed it off like they were better cuz of the heap of shit they were on.To add to this, the thing i find funny is that one, 85% plus of an HD is Japanese. Forks, electronics, etc... Two, most HD riders started their love affair with bikes on Japanese machines. For them to act like they don't want to associate with anything Japanese is stupid. But, to each their own. I worked at a shop for over 6 years that was HD, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Honda. We had to split the stores because the HD guys wanted to walk in the HD side w/o passing the Japanese stuff... There was more to it, but it was one of the reasons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I guess so. The key factor here is it is a cruiser' date=' not a sport bike. I don't ride a 1000 inline because I don't like rear tires busting loose mid corner on a street ride. (hell, I don't want it on the track) I'd rather have a bike that needs its neck rung than a bike that will break traction with a slight twist of the wrist. Preference, that's all.[/quote']Actually, it is more of a naked bike classed machine that goes up against the Super Duke 990 and related. That's the thing. Over in Europe, they are HUGE because they fit that class. They are NOT cruisers. Yes, they handle. Yes, they can run well with an accomplished rider. Yes, they have low end grunt. BUT, what we were arguing against (My bike I used wasn't a porkly Busa, either) is that a guy is saying all this crap about torque and is siding solely on that to state the bike in terms of other machines. It starts and ends with torque for all these HD guys. It's the only thing they can win with. There are MANY other issues with these machines. Vibration. That antique power plant vibrates like an old washing machine. Push rods are cool and neat, but to create a bike with mixing in somewhat newer technology seems to be an exercise in wasted time.Again, the V-Rod is a cool bike. Why couldn't they use that powerplant and expand on it to create a cool naked bike similar to the Tuono R and the Super Duke R? I understand they won't do a sportbike because of Buell, but even Buell has realized that the HD based powerplant is not the best idea. So, they went to Rotax and did it right. Now, as early as late 2009 when Buell unvails their TRUE sportbike that is due to run against other sport V-Twin bikes, it won't be an HD based motor...All I am saying is that yes, it stirs the soul of certain riders. There are MANY choices for the MANY different tastes of the MANY different riders in the world. But to speak as if this is a toe to toe machine with anything currently on the market and use torque as the sole basis of one's argument is insane... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Agreed.I agree to agree. Agreed. Now, leave positive reputation for me or I will shun you!:D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoosego Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 but are they comfortable???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 but are they comfortable????Comfort is a matter of taste. I personally get VERY uncomfortable on cruisers and feel VERY comfortable on sportbikes. It's what I am used to. But, it is how I feel when I ride... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Comfort is a matter of taste. I personally get VERY uncomfortable on cruisers and feel VERY comfortable on sportbikes. It's what I am used to. But, it is how I feel when I ride...i feel the same way. i feel more comfy on sportbikes. and the cruisers i have rode they made me feel comfy with the sitting positions but i can never feel in tune with the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweezel Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 ...but i can never feel in tune with the bike.exactly!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exSRAaron Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I agree to agree. Agreed. Now, leave positive reputation for me or I will shun you!:D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harb67 Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Now, as early as late 2009 when Buell unvails their TRUE sportbike that is due to run against other sport V-Twin bikes, it won't be an HD based motor...Wait, thread-hijacking time; Buell is doing another sportbike? A bike that's more of a 'true' sportbike than the 1125r/1125cr? I thought those two were pretty solid sportbikes (actually, I'd love to replace my 650 with an 1125r)...but they're doing another one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harb67 Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 IDK' date=' I'm afraid to see it. I think the power plant of the 1125 is sweet but I never thought they could make a bike uglier than the XB9R/12R. I guess I was wrong. The 1125 looks like an old Turbo Teen rerun. And they put the luggage on the wrong end. Duh!![/quote']To each his own; I personally ~love~ that bike Though, it's the only Buell I'd ever consider owning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4isvt Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I kinda like it but probably would not pay the ridiculous amount they are selling it for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 I'm a fan of the 1125 myself, because it's got the Rotax powerplant, and I saw one click off 10.70s at the drag strip with a shiddy rider on it. Keep it on the ground and it might hang with my short-shifting on the 'busa.I also agree on the Turbo Teen styling of the R. I'd take the CR before the R model, but the CR has the parachute pants intake going on... unnecessary. Supposedly they're for "durability" i.e. when you drop the bike, you just replace those HUGE air ducts for pennies on the dollar. I like saving money, but style is style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Wait, thread-hijacking time; Buell is doing another sportbike? A bike that's more of a 'true' sportbike than the 1125r/1125cr? I thought those two were pretty solid sportbikes (actually, I'd love to replace my 650 with an 1125r)...but they're doing another one?The 1125R isn't a sportbike like say the KTM RC8 is. Buell is talking about shooting more towards that mark... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweezel Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 I'd like to see a Hayabusa follow my old Buell down Route 9 one Sunday. Hell' date=' I'd like to see a Busa follow that Victory for that matter. Bike is 10% of the equation.[/quote']So... Were on for spring then? I LOVE RT 9! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 So... Were on for spring then? I LOVE RT 9!Hell I don't know where Rt 9 is but I might get in on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Super Duke is Lizard approved. See your local KTM dealer as you pass by the HD shop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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