copperhead Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=315533893763712 The Warm Turns INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY Posted 12/30/2008 Climate Change: The Earth has been warming ever since the end of the Little Ice Age. But guess what: Researchers say mankind is to blame for that, too. As we've noted, 2008 has been a year of records for cold and snowfall and may indeed be the coldest year of the 21st century thus far. In the U.S., the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month of October. Global thermometers stopped rising after 1998, and have plummeted in the last two years by more than 0.5 degrees Celsius. The 2007-2008 temperature drop was not predicted by global climate models. But it was predictable by a decline in sunspot activity since 2000. When the sun is active, it's not uncommon to see sunspot numbers of 100 or more in a single month. Every 11 years, activity slows, and numbers briefly drop near zero. Normally sunspots return very quickly, as a new cycle begins. But this year, the start of a new cycle, the sun has been eerily quiet. The first seven months averaged a sunspot count of only three and in August there were no sunspots at all — zero — something that has not occurred since 1913. According to the publication Daily Tech, in the past 1,000 years, three previous such events — what are called the Dalton, Maunder and Sporer Minimums — have all led to rapid cooling. One was large enough to be called the Little Ice Age (1500-1750). The Little Ice Age has been a problem for global warmers because it serves as a reminder of how the earth warms and cools naturally over time. It had to be ignored in the calculations that produced the infamous and since-discredited hockey stick graph that showed a sharp rise in warming alleged to be caused by man. The answer to this dilemma has supposedly been found by two Stanford researchers, Richard Nevle and Dennis Bird, who announced their "findings" at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco. According to them, man not only is causing contemporary warming. He also caused the cooling that preceded it. According to Bird and Nevle, before Columbus ruined paradise, native Americans had deforested a significant portion of the continent and converted the land to agricultural purposes. Less CO2 was then absorbed from the atmosphere, and the earth was toasty. Then a bunch of nasty old white guys arrived and depopulated the native populations through war and the diseases they brought with them. This led to the large-scale abandonment of agricultural lands. The subsequent reforestation of the continent caused temperatures to drop enough to bring on the Little Ice Age. Implicit in this research is that the world would be fine if man wasn't in the way. We either make the world too cold or too hot, a view held by many in high places. In a speech at Harvard last November, Harvard physicist John Holden, President-elect Obama's choice to be his science adviser as director of the White House Office of Science and Technology, presented a "top 10" list of warming solutions. Topping the list was "limiting population," as if man was a plague upon the earth. This is a major tenet of green dogma that bemoans the fact that the pestilence called mankind comes with cars, factories and overconsumption of fossil fuels and other resources. R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa-Carleton Geoscience Centre of Canada's Carleton University, says: "I and the first-class scientists I work with are consistently finding excellent correlations between the regular fluctuations of the sun and earthly climate. This is not surprising. The sun and the stars are the ultimate source of energy on this planet." Indeed, a look at a graph of solar irradiance from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration shows little solar activity during the Little Ice Age and significant activity during recent times. Don't blame Dick and Jane — blame sunspots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted January 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 So, global temps have been dropping for the last ten years, yet I keep hearing cries about global warming? All I know is that two weekends ago it was touching -20 with windchill. That's fucking cold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 good read, now i need to find more info on sun spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 So...Humans are now responsible for the sun being pissed off at us? Al Gore, explain your self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted January 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 So...Humans are now responsible for the sun being pissed off at us? Al Gore, explain your self. He made millions selling carbon credits, he doesn't have to explain shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Putting on my tin foil hat as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I stole Sam's Tinfoil hat and replaced it with silver construction paper per my orders from the Illuminati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Putting on my tin foil hat as we speak. Don't do it!!! It's a ploy perpetrated by the man. It has actually been proven that tin foil hats will increase outside signals to your head. I've been reading about the sunspot thing for awhile, now. It's pretty interesting. And there are so many things to contradict the whole global warming thing, it's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I guess a story written on an investment website is the most credible place to get news about earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 So, global temps have been dropping for the last ten years, yet I keep hearing cries about global warming? All I know is that two weekends ago it was touching -20 with windchill. That's fucking cold The idea of global warming has been around a lot longer than 10 years. I remember hearing about it when i was just a wee lil one. I also remember hearing that global warming doesnt just mean that overall temps get higher, but that summers get hotter and winters get colder. If i remember correctly, I learned this on a show called Beyond 2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8tn Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 you guys forget that Al Gore was trained as a politician which brings with it the ability to ignore the facts. They've pulled ice core samples from antartica that show the fluctuations in the global temps.......ice core samples don't sell as many books though as Al Gore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supldys Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 I remember when I always used to lose my signal with t-mobile, when I called they told me it was sunspots. I no longer have t-mobile, apparently Verizon isn't affected by sunspots. Sunspots are BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Advocate Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 This is proof that we should go around continuing to wreck the environment with unnecessary bullshit. It's cool if The Earth is the only loser, right? Why try to take care of it? Seems kinda pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 This is proof that we should go around continuing to wreck the environment with unnecessary bullshit. It's cool if The Earth is the only loser, right? Why try to take care of it? Seems kinda pointless. Shut your whore mouth with all your fancy skoolin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 This is proof that we should go around continuing to wreck the environment with unnecessary bullshit. It's cool if The Earth is the only loser, right? Why try to take care of it? Seems kinda pointless. But I like having air quality theat's about the same as a dyno day~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I am detecting large amounts of dirty hippie in this thread.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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