Do or Die: Obama gives Chrysler 30 days and GM 60 days

[TheHaze]

This.

 

I am disgusted by our government and out population. How can there be no outrage over this? How can we allow of government to continue to move in the direction it is?

 

I'm right there with you.

[Guest Hal]

History says otherwise. Change that widespread is forced not diplomatic. I gotta say that.

 

If snoop dog was still talking about gun play like he was 18 , either he would bring it back or he would sound old. He said your forced to change or get run over. I'll say this dude , when you find out the anwser you tell us.

 

What history you're looking at can change things quite a bit. Plenty of diplomatic solutions have happened.

[Guest 614Streets]

Well lets not forget our own people sunk tea ships to start this country.

 

Dumped tea

[OGRE]

I agree, but it became his business when they were given the opprotunities to grab for our money.

 

it's not the governments job to bail out badly run companies no matter how big they are, they should have been allowed to go through bankrupcy like they had before. But the government scared every to believing the sky was falling and something had to be done quick to fix things, there is NO quick fix.

 

Capitalism fixes it's self it may be painfull but it works. when gov. puts it's nose into the situation it always blows up in thier face, people blam fanny and freddy for the housing collapse . . . why does no one blame the Gov. for coaxing them to do it, promising to back them if they screwed up.

 

The "everyone deserves a home" doctrine caused this.

[V8 Beast]

I see change lol

[SPLN SUX]

This made me laugh....why was Carter a one term Pres if everything was fine when he left. Read a book.

 

Well Carter was the one in office during the huge gas shortage in 79/80 and is also who killed the muscle car era by passing emissions laws. He was not a very popular man. He too was very much into PREVENTING an energy crisis that no one really saw a plausible. So he got the boot. carter had the right idea, and 30yrs ago, if he'd gone a second term, perhaps things could have been set in motion and we wouldn't be in the shit were in now.

 

Carter in a nutshell... this speech:

 

 

he had this shit figured out... then Regan halted everything

[andyjs3589]

it's not the governments job to bail out badly run companies no matter how big they are, they should have been allowed to go through bankrupcy like they had before. But the government scared every to believing the sky was falling and something had to be done quick to fix things, there is NO quick fix.

 

Capitalism fixes it's self it may be painfull but it works. when gov. puts it's nose into the situation it always blows up in thier face, people blam fanny and freddy for the housing collapse . . . why does no one blame the Gov. for coaxing them to do it, promising to back them if they screwed up.

 

The "everyone deserves a home" doctrine caused this.

 

Exactly, forever the banks would lend money to who they saw fit to pay it back, then the government(Carter and Clinton) got involved and said that everyone should have a home. They coerced these lending institutions into lending money to people who had no real chance of ever paying it back.

 

Peter Schiff predicted that we were going to be in a recession and people just laughed at him and called him a liar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

 

Also, one more thing to consider: The financial and automotive industries are two of the most heavily regulated sectors in the U.S. Those are the two sectors that are failing....THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT OF THE PRIVATE SECTORS BUSINESS!

[smokin5s]

here ya go

dude, I honestly tried to read this... but I can't seem to stop looking at the cans in your avitar instead... you sir are a lucky man

[OSUGT]

Well Carter was the one in office during the huge gas shortage in 79/80 and is also who killed the muscle car era by passing emissions laws. He was not a very popular man. He too was very much into PREVENTING an energy crisis that no one really saw a plausible. So he got the boot. carter had the right idea, and 30yrs ago, if he'd gone a second term, perhaps things could have been set in motion and we wouldn't be in the shit were in now.

 

Carter in a nutshell... this speech:

 

 

he had this shit figured out... then Regan halted everything

 

Carter was a peanut farmer....but he probably had more experience than a community organizer.

[TA In Progress]

It's very easy to say "fuck the auto companies", and "let them go out of business" when it's not your job on the line. People want to be mad at the people who fucked up the auto industry, forgetting that there are thousands and thousands of auto industry employees who had nothing to do with the fucking up of the auto industry (besides being overpaid, but seriously, nobody ever says, "I'm being paid too much, here's some back"). Imagine if you were at risk of losing your job because of missteps by upper management that were out of your control. I will be the first one to say that people should not make $80,000 a year to put bumpers on cars in a factory, but at the same time, if these companies just go away, imagine how many more jobs will be lost above and beyond those already gone. And the damage would extend farther than GM and Chrysler employees. They need to lose the unions (and shitty management) and pay their employees reasonable, not extravagant wages.

[TA In Progress]

Also, one more thing to consider: The financial and automotive industries are two of the most heavily regulated sectors in the U.S. Those are the two sectors that are failing....THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT OF THE PRIVATE SECTORS BUSINESS!

 

Since aviation was deregulated in 1978, 165 airlines have either collapsed, merged, or are in Chapter 11. Between 1938 and 1978 (airline regulation) only six airlines MERGED with other airlines, service was good, and they actually made money. I would say your statement, while not entirely out of the question, isn't always the best idea.

[T Rex]

Exactly, forever the banks would lend money to who they saw fit to pay it back, then the government(Carter and Clinton) got involved and said that everyone should have a home. They coerced these lending institutions into lending money to people who had no real chance of ever paying it back.

 

Peter Schiff predicted that we were going to be in a recession and people just laughed at him and called him a liar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

 

Also, one more thing to consider: The financial and automotive industries are two of the most heavily regulated sectors in the U.S. Those are the two sectors that are failing....THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT OF THE PRIVATE SECTORS BUSINESS!

 

Bush was the one who deregulated the majority of bank loans... his administraion allowed sub-prime lenders to leverage 1000 dollars in equity to 300000 lent out...

[zuht]

PS - Why do all of these atricles, and reporters in general, keep referring to Obama as "Mr. Obama" and not "President Obama"? I do not recall W being called "Mr. Bush"...

 

Those publications all have style guides to follow. You'll notice that the first reference is President Barack Obama, and further references are Mr. Obama. It's pretty typical, really.

[KillJoy]

Those publications all have style guides to follow. You'll notice that the first reference is President Barack Obama, and further references are Mr. Obama. It's pretty typical, really.

 

Not so much. It happens on National Newscasts as well. One person will always refer to him as Mr. and another as President.

 

 

KillJoy