Sam1647545489 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Ok, you have a 89 mustang gt with a 5.0L motor in it and it has a t5 5 speed trans. You wanna switch to an auto. You order a C4 with the small block bell housing. It is a newer C4 with the dipstick that goes into the case, not the pan. You get everything mounted up and find out that the starter is no where near catching to start the motor. What would you think is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 And I just realized this should be in the tech section. Please move if needed. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Ward Racing Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 It could possibly be the wrong bellhousing or the wrong flexplate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBMW Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Moderator duties complete for the year. -Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 wrong starter depending on what year the bell was made for I show one listing to 5.0 5spd mustang and the a totaly different part number for an earlier car like a mustang II that has a c4 with a 302 if you get a me a little more info on the trans and flexplate combo I can get you a part number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 wrong starter depending on what year the bell was made for I show one listing to 5.0 5spd mustang and the a totaly different part number for an earlier car like a mustang II that has a c4 with a 302 if you get a me a little more info on the trans and flexplate combo I can get you a part number It was a flat SFI flexplate at first which was way wrong for the converter so went to jegs and got another one with a little notch on it that brought the flexplate out alil and its better now for the bolting to converter without shims. Starter is still no even close. Went with the different starter option and gonna see tomorrow if that fixes the problem. Just trying to get different opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 wrong starter....or flex plate.. there are 2 just like a sbc... different tooth count etc... with the right flywheel, your starter should work just fine. 2 starters for ford vans..one starter has a 9 tooth, the other is 10. but i'd put money on the flywheel being wrong. i have done t-5 to c-4 swaps before, and used the same starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Will look into that as well. I know there is a 164 and a 157 i think. We are trying to figure it all out and make sure the right parts are there. Just figured the starter would be the easiest thing to start with rather then ripping the whole trans back out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 i think you need to run a 164...but you have to have the right bell... cause some bells wont let you fit a 164, and you have to run the 157, which will mess you up on the starter.. which bell housing you running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Waiting to hear back from RPM to see what bell they sent me. I told them I got a 89 5.0L that it is mounting up to and figured that would be enough to get me the right parts from the start but didnt realize there was so many different options out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 what a kick in the balls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Waiting to hear back from RPM to see what bell they sent me. I told them I got a 89 5.0L that it is mounting up to and figured that would be enough to get me the right parts from the start but didnt realize there was so many different options out there. well there are several different bell housing's for them. and with what your doing, you should use a JW. but it almost sounds like you have a pan fill bell, on a case fill trans. but i have no idea what you do have soo.... gl. edit: i didnt know they did ford transmissions. my trans guys builds all of ricarts c-4's for his car's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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