V8 Beast Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Who can help me out? I need to have it set up where it pulls timing automatically when my nitrous is armed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Give Paul a stopwatch. He can be your timing retard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Give Paul a stopwatch. He can be your timing retard. hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRTurbo04 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Give Paul a stopwatch. He can be your timing retard. hahahahaha Can we keep this on topic please. the mans trying to prevent his car from blowing up, an doesnt need your dick head commments ... brian goodluck have you tryed contacting the guy who did your tune to give you some pointers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Give Paul a stopwatch. He can be your timing retard. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! I need to know what device is the best for the job and who can help with the installation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I <3 both of you :grin2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRTurbo04 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I <3 both of you :grin2: i shall stab you now quit posting offtopic crap on this tech thread!!!!!!! brian hit up larry at jegs he might be able to point you in the right direction on the part you need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Not if I don't stab you first I know it can be tuned as well along the lines of if the car sees X temp at the IAT (due to nitrous) it'll pull timing accordingly under certain RPMs and torque sensing at launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 normally you can run a wire to the ecu and have it tuned to pull timing when the wire is grounded with the N2o. not sure if they make a paul box for the DIS system on the lsx stuff without it being a crazy price. i would suggest doing the pull timing trick with the wiring...ask need2pistons about it. he can fill you in more on it. what tuning device are/ have you been using on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Ummmmm yeah, I dont have a tuning device. I'm at the mercy of lap tops to pull timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Ummmmm yeah, I dont have a tuning device. I'm at the mercy of lap tops to pull timing. you can make it do it in the ecu with a laptop.. what system are you using to tune it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 EFIlive has a custom operating system that can be utilized to pull timing, but you must run in SD. I used this for my car for a while and it works fine, but I wanted to go back to a MAF. Now I have the IAT sensor scaled so that when I unplug it, it will pull timing. This way isn't as convenient as the box MSD makes or the IAT interface that Casper's Electronics makes but it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Automotive Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Do you have an ignition system on the car Brian? MSD or the like? IIRC I had a MSD 8970? on my car. Dont tell Bill Willoughby that though. Thats what you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Do you have an ignition system on the car Brian? MSD or the like? IIRC I had a MSD 8970? on my car. Dont tell Bill Willoughby that though. Thats what you need. Keep in mind that LS1s have coil per cylinder, iirc Brian isn't running anything like that. The only decent ways to pull timing while spraying on these cars is to either use a timing box that plugs into the crank sensor (MSD), or use an IAT interface (which still requires the IAT vs timing table to be modified in the tune), but the simplest way is to flash the PCM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Do you have an ignition system on the car Brian? MSD or the like? IIRC I had a MSD 8970? on my car. Dont tell Bill Willoughby that though. Thats what you need. you dont have DIS.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Automotive Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 you dont have DIS.... Yep, forgot about that part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Other than Dyno Brian fine tuning the a/f with HP tuners its still on the original tune Rutan put in it years ago with EFI live. I'm on SD already. Rutan and I discussed the COS or something like that but we never got around to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Other than Dyno Brian fine tuning the a/f with HP tuners its still on the original tune Rutan put in it years ago with EFI live. I'm on SD already. Rutan and I discussed the COS or something like that but we never got around to it. thats what was talking about...set it up like scotts is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Other than Dyno Brian fine tuning the a/f with HP tuners its still on the original tune Rutan put in it years ago with EFI live. I'm on SD already. Rutan and I discussed the COS or something like that but we never got around to it. I can help you set it up, but once it's on EFIlive's COS only EFIlive can read it and do much with it. HPtuners can't even log much, and Brady tried. It's up to you. Honestly if you were going to get that serious about it, just buy your own version of a tuning software and then you can log and all kinds of stuff. Totally up to you and how you want it to work. Any tuner in town could help you set-up an IAT interface and then you can have multiple timing retards at the turn of a switch. Here check this out, once it's wired in you set up the IAT vs timing table and you're all set to pull as much timing as you need to. http://www.casperselectronics.com/store2/product_info.php?cPath=27_41_49&products_id=701 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 It can easily be set-up like mine also, but without the ability to work on it yourself you become very limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I can help you set it up, but once it's on EFIlive's COS only EFIlive can read it and do much with it. HPtuners can't even log much, and Brady tried. It's up to you. Honestly if you were going to get that serious about it, just buy your own version of a tuning software and then you can log and all kinds of stuff. Totally up to you and how you want it to work. Any tuner in town could help you set-up an IAT interface and then you can have multiple timing retards at the turn of a switch. Here check this out, once it's wired in you set up the IAT vs timing table and you're all set to pull as much timing as you need to. http://www.casperselectronics.com/store2/product_info.php?cPath=27_41_49&products_id=701 Cool, what do I need to do the first one? I only do a 175 at most so that and full timing is all I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Steve Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 The Lingenfelter Unit is a nice unit as well. I have heard good things from people using that system. Timing retard, launch controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I can set you up with timing retard when the spray is flowing for probably less then $20.00. Call me tomorrow sometime and we can discuss this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I can set you up with timing retard when the spray is flowing for probably less then $20.00. Call me tomorrow sometime and we can discuss this. Will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I can set you up with timing retard when the spray is flowing for probably less then $20.00. Call me tomorrow sometime and we can discuss this. Resistor in the IAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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