John Bruh Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 I had a discussion with a underground milita guy and he told me about his "bomb shelter" for when the world ends (lol i know right) lol. Here is the question. Say you want to build a bomb shelter underground. how far do in the ground would you have to dig, before it didnt put off any heat that was able to pick up from a thermal imaging camera like on governemt vehicles. So no one in the government could know your living down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Over 9000 feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 so like if your in a concrete room that is fully sealed, and you have oxygen pumps to emit oxygen even if you were 10ft, or even 20ft underground they would still know your there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 so like if your in a concrete room that is fully sealed, and you have oxygen pumps to emit oxygen even if you were 10ft, or even 20ft underground they would still know your there? Fuck an outside oxygen pump. Make a super large room with access to artificial light and grow a forest. That will sustain your oxygen levels for your underground fortress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotarded1647545491 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Your problem wouldn't be a heat signature, it would be an electro-magnetic signature from your power source/grid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Your problem wouldn't be a heat signature, it would be an electro-magnetic signature from your power source/grid. explain more in depth please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotarded1647545491 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 You could go deep enough to hide the heat, but all electric generators, wiring, and appliances give off an electro-magnetic field which travels through earth/rock/concrete. If power is cut off to an area, one could track electro-magnetic field fluctuations to your location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 (edited) EDIT How would you cover up the electro-magnetic images with the wiring and applicance? Is that possible. Edited August 20, 2010 by John Bruh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rotarded1647545491 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 say on top of the bomb shelter you build a free standing structure above ground. In the exact shape of the structure underground. with this being said, there wouldnt be any disturbance of the natural aquifer by the underground structure, because the above ground structure would hide any of this. An aquifer is a body of saturated rock through which water can easily move. Unless your structure has permiability roughly equal to the surrounding rock, you are disturbing it. What would this have to do with your question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 I re-read everything and answer my question. and what I posted above would have nothing do to with what you mention in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotarded1647545491 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 While you can mask the physical(visual) signs of underground facilities with structures located above them, you cannot hide the electro-magnetic emissions. Yes, EM can cause mutations in plants, and hallucinations in humans, but they are talking in the scale of a photon particle accelerator, not a fan and a toaster. I would assume if you were to dig into an area of higher that normal magnetic geological formations, you could confuse detectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 While you can mask the physical(visual) signs of underground facilities with structures located above them, you cannot hide the electro-magnetic emissions. Yes, EM can cause mutations in plants, and hallucinations in humans, but they are talking in the scale of a photon particle accelerator, not a fan and a toaster. I would assume if you were to dig into an area of higher that normal magnetic geological formations, you could confuse detectors. i edited what i posted about. Here is the next question. How would you cover up the electro-magnetic images with the wiring and applicances? Is that possible, to cover up both your thermal and em images? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 and onto my original question. how deep would you have to dig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotarded1647545491 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 i edited what i posted about. Here is the next question. How would you cover up the electro-magnetic images with the wiring and applicances? Is that possible, to cover up both your thermal and em images? I would assume if you were to dig into an area of higher that normal magnetic geological formations, you could confuse detectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotarded1647545491 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 and onto my original question. how deep would you have to dig? I would think it shouldn't be more than 20 feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Thermal can't see through walls like in the movies.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotarded1647545491 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Thermal can't see through walls like in the movies.. Shut up! Superman can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 There's some interesting underground shelters here http://www.survivalcenter.com/UG.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 As said before electric would be the issue. Concrete would hide any heat source you want if you put it thick enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinergi Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Ican't find it right now but I was talking to a guy (who I believe was out in WY or NV) who did a shelter underground that had supplies for up to 5 people for 2 years. I will see if I can find it. The down size was 2.5 million dollars. I think you would be safe from anything but AIDS and SARS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Ican't find it right now but I was talking to a guy (who I believe was out in WY or NV) who did a shelter underground that had supplies for up to 5 people for 2 years. I will see if I can find it. The down size was 2.5 million dollars. I think you would be safe from anything but AIDS and SARS. except for the part when your shitter gets clogged and you have to live among your poo cuz there's no plumbers to call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 EDIT How would you cover up the electro-magnetic images with the wiring and applicance? Is that possible. A Faraday cage will block electromagnetic waves from escaping it, but it itself gives of EM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skruffy Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 What the fuck are you into that makes you think the government is going to perform some sort of EM search over the entirety of the US looking for some underground shelter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 What the fuck are you into that makes you think the government is going to perform some sort of EM search over the entirety of the US looking for some underground shelter? underground anal. wanna join? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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