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I've seriously been eyeballing a 2011 4x4 Grand Cherokee Limited to replace my Colorado. I've always been a GM guy, but this Colorado has really left a sour taste in my mouth. It's such a POS. I think I'm ready to try something new and the new JGCs are sexx. It's a shame they're so damn expensive though. I'm not sure I'm ready to cough up $45,000 for a new SUV.
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I have been a Mopar fan most of my life. I loved all the Jeeps I have owned and I love our 09 Dodge Ram. Of all their new vehicles, the best has to be the 2011 Grand Cherokee. I have test drove a couple and just love them. I hope to pick up an Overland model here in a few years.
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Mallard, has Chrysler figured out how to get halfway decent gas mileage out of anything? That's really my biggest gripe about them, even their small cars can't touch what the others out there can do.

I agree. Most of their cars got shitty mileage. But the new 3.6L 285 HP V6 Avenger/200C gets rated at 29 or 30 mpg. Not sure what it gets in other cars, like the Journey. Once MiltiAir gets put on the current engines their mileage should go up a bit more.

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Well, a few people missed the point of the thread. Sure, your friend hates the interior on his 2005 300C. That's because it's crap. This is about the improvements made for 2011. Sure Hyundai has made great strides in their line up, but being employed in Detroit I tend not to shit where I eat. I'll never buy one for both political and economical reasons. Ever. (And yes, I know they reached a trade agreement this week)

 

Journey

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/lead6-2011-dodge-journey-qs.jpg

8.5 inch touch screen

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/lead5-2011-dodge-journey-qs.jpg

 

Wrangler

http://motorcitymusclecars.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/2011-jeep-wrangler-jk-interior.jpg

Color Matched Hard Top

http://www.carshowp.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/2011-Jeep-Wrangler-Duo-Cars-View.jpg

 

Grand Cherokee

http://landmarkdodge.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2011-jeep-grand-cherokee-dash.jpg

 

200C

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6sM-lX_rJfA/TMwNVEbca0I/AAAAAAAAByY/cZ_oDRDRqEc/s1600/dg011006av.jpg

 

Caravan

http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto-news/first-official-photos-of-2011-dodge-grand-caravan-revealed/31069222+w750/2011-dodge-grand-caravan-interior.jpg

 

Town and Country

http://image.motortrend.com/f/31330204+w750/1110-2011-chrysler-town-and-country-interior.jpg

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http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l303/wminor33/LenoirCityFM/LenoirCityFMFordFlag.jpg

Not built with your tax dollars.

Really?

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/12/500x_fedchart_4.jpg

In the depths of the financial collapse, the U.S. Federal Reserve pumped $3.3 trillion into keeping credit moving through the economy. It eventually lent $57.9 billion to the auto industry — including $26.8 billion to Ford, Toyota and BMW.

 

The Fed on Wednesday was forced to reveal the identity of the companies it aided during the crisis, after contending to Congress that keeping their identities and the details of such lending secret was essential. Much of Wall Street, and corporate giants such as General Electric, Harley Davidson and McDonald's, took advantage of the Fed's help. We've done the math on how the Fed propped up the auto industry.

 

While Chrysler and General Motors had to go to Congress to beg for cash in 2008, every other automaker's finance arm was having trouble as well. Typically, once they lend money to a buyer, they sell the loan, get the cash upfront, then pump the proceeds back into the business. They also take out short-term loans called commercial paper that keeps the day-to-day business afloat. The crash cut the circuit, raising the chances the automakers couldn't make loans to buyers and keep selling new vehicles.

 

That's where the Fed stepped in. In normal circumstances, the Fed only lends money to banks, leaving the decisions about who should get credit to them. But when the financial markets started to collapse in late 2008, the Fed set up several programs to lend money directly to corporations, a highly unusual step.

 

According to the data, from October 2008 through June 2009 the fed bought $45.1 billion in commercial paper from the credit arms of four automakers - Ford, BMW, Chrysler and Toyota - along with GMAC (the former General Motors credit arm). Of those, Ford sold the most, with $15.9 billion.

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This may be a silly question, but are the Wrangler doors still designed to quickly and easily be removed? Power locks, windows and mirrors make me think not so much.

Yes, they still remove easily. You can also buy 'half doors' through Mopar.

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Don't forget the Gen-V Viper coming as well as the JGCSRT-8...

 

 

Really?

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/12/500x_fedchart_4.jpg

 

Isn't that in reference to lenders financial backing to sell the products and not daily operating costs to keep there doors open?

 

The way I understood it was they got Fed Reserve backing to sell cars (i.e.write loans).

 

Where as GM got a Federal loan just to stay open and operate....

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The problem I have with all of those interiors is that they all face straight back, not around the driver. Most of the design cues are still stuck in 2000.

 

I can hear the hard plastic in that Jeep image creaking and squeaking on a cold day like today already. I also seriously question the acoustics of that stereo with the tweeter staring at me while I'm driving. Ouch.

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I read that graphic as not really borrowing, the Fed bought the car loans from Ford CREDIT. Just like banks buy Mortgages. Anyone who has bought a house knows you sign your shit and your broker sells your shit to a bank. It's a stretch in my mind to call it borrowing. The fed bought a bunch of loans.
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