TurboNova Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 You ran 60# base pressure of your 160s? I need to email fic and find out more and look into that Weldon I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Well decided to bite the bullet and go with a belt driven setup off the crank to turn a remote cable drive pump. Ordered a new damper from proffesional products so I can utilize the 3 bolt face and a drive mandrel from aeromotive. I will have to machine the hub side of the mandrel to fit the ls damper but thats no big deal. Called up Waterman and picked up their drive spud setup and remote mount bracket. Will have to be creative as far as mounting it but there is room so I am sending the car off in 2 weeks to the chassis shop to fabricate a mount for the pump. Picked up the waterman racing sprint 700 mechanical pump. it flows 6.8gpm so over 400gph and will maintain 100 psi line pressure no problem across the entire range. I really hated to put the money out but I know I will have a fuel system that will never need upgrading no matter what I do with the car and I no longer have sleepless nights in fear of one electric pump starting to fade off and lean my engine out while in the boost. Anxious to get it all on the car when it gets here and then get it back to the dyno to see what my injector duty cycle is at and have brian add some more cranking fuel to the car so I can get it to start up easy until the pump is making pressure from engine rpm will keep it updated as to results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattsv8 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 i had a waterman cable drive setup but didnt like th belt falling off the motor when it revs up. so i stuck with 3 elec pumps the drive belt for the alt fell off and takes out the fuel pump belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Too many guys to count run this setup and rev past 7k and have run the same belt for 2 seasons. Hope it works that well for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattsv8 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Mine was a alignment issue with having to run a v belt. If I could have used a serp belt with it would have rocked. The reg cog drive belt they use should never move. I like cable drives there is a dude on theturboforums with a puke green nova ls swap with one id see what he uses. Ill try and find a screenname but get on and search cable drive and u should find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Yeah his name is Aaron we talk a bunch, he's the one who talked me into running a cable drive you can't argue with 400gph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Update on Cable drive fuel pump setup. Due to having a stock fbody balancer I had to get a new balancer to run the mandrel setup to run the cable drive. I picked up a professional products balancer since they have a 3 bolt hole face. Then I got an aeromotive BBC mandrel. The two will not work together but the bolt holes line up. I took the two pieces over to Mike Rush at MM Head services and he put the mandrel on the lathe and made the two fit together like they were meant to. Very cool how it works. I have a Waterman Sprint 700 pump on order (flows 6.8gpm/408gph) cable, drive adapter,mount and setup for belt up front on the way. Still need to get a new weldon regulator then Ill be in business. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/1972nova/photo6.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/1972nova/photo5.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattsv8 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Youhave a lot more room than I did there my alt belt almost touched the fuel pump belt very close. Id think u will love it. And the extra battery power! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted June 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Both good and bad occurred today.... Picked the car up from chassis shop after having some brackets made up for some parts and then having some custom fab fuel pump things finished. The cable drive system is bad ass. Even sitting over night and with the tune untouched from the electric pumps the car fires up almost instantly or very little cranking. Took the car over to Dynotune and had brian look at the tune (needed much work due to the new fuel pump) but its a good thing my injector duty cycles will go down by more than 30-40% Got it up on the rollers brian worked with the tune a bit and got it starting real easy and made a couple pulls on the wastegate spring. 6 psi the car made 570whp which is a great improvement. The bad: Oil leak had to cut the dyno short until next monday. For some reason I reused a very old (150k plus) valley pan gasket and not sure if crankcase pressure took its toll or what but it started pissing oil from the gasket that was visibly pushed out. and Ive had enough of these valve covers also. I ordered a set of billet covers from Nasty Performance and bought a new valley gasket from the dealer today. Overall it was minor in nature but still shitty, will be back out to the dyno next mon/tues to give it another shot..chasing the 4 digit whp number, feel pretty good now that the fuel system is beyond overkill and will never be maxed with my setup. some pics of setup. I also mounted the coolant catch can in the trunk. Im going to run a -4 from the front overflow port on radiator to trunk so if the system ever does pressurize the water will be behind my rear tires And also bought a kurt urban vapor system and had a custom mount made for the box, still need to run the lines. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/1972nova/cc1675d8.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/1972nova/a502d22c.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/1972nova/3d513f4f.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/1972nova/4736dc5c.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/1972nova/828c2c0b.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixdarican Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 i love this build. hopefully you get to 1k hp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted June 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 thanks. I should just settle for the numbers I have its more than enough power but I guess I just want 4 digits and ill be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 thanks. I should just settle for the numbers I have its more than enough power but I guess I just want 4 digits and ill be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolrayz Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Are you sure you have the crankcase ventilated properly. A car like yours should have at least one -12 or two -8 venting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted June 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 To be honest I don't know.... I have two -10. One on each cover I feel I should vent the valley cover but have mixed reviews and there is a ton of oil there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolrayz Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 To be honest I don't know.... I have two -10. One on each cover I feel I should vent the valley cover but have mixed reviews and there is a ton of oil there If two -10's isnt doing it you have problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted June 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Lol I don't think there is a problem one with the motor it's just venting crankcase. It's an age old problem on these cars. Alot of big power cars run a vac pump to pull out the covers. I just need to decide to vent valley cover or not. The only place it leaked from was shitty valve covers and that was because of not being able to tighten them with the all pro heads The valley gasket could of been weak, but I'm Not naive to think it also gave way due to crankcase pressure just need a solution and it's hard to get concrete info How was yours before dry sump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolrayz Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 single -12 off of the valley cover with the LS7 dry sump system on the last motor. Before that I was only making 6-700 on nitrous and it vented fine with the three -6 lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted June 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 man I would love to have a dry sump, but Im done dumping money at this point, its been a long 2 years for me. My plans are to put a -10 inside of valley cover and build a baffle tray underneath it do oil cant just get sprayed directly into it and hopefully it just acts as a crankcase vent without to much misting. My guess on my setup is with the manufacture ring gaps for boost and running e85 on high boost my blowby is more than the 2 -10 valve cover vents will take care of. Either way I will give the valley cover a shot if it creates to much of a mess ill put a cap on it and go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Some .02 cents worth -- keep in mind most compressor housings do not seal 100% and some pressurized air makes its way into the oil return line. Usually, it will be more pronounced on journal bearing turbos (even the big names'). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted June 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 ^possibility. I dont really think the blow by is an issue. I think I just need to figure out how to get it managable under boost. Im going to try this valley cover vent, put everything back together and go back to the dyno early next week. If things go south again Ill just take my time for the rest of the year going through some research and try it again next year. I have accomplished alot in 2 years and starting to get burned out and tired of spending $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 ^possibility. I dont really think the blow by is an issue. I think I just need to figure out how to get it managable under boost. Im going to try this valley cover vent, put everything back together and go back to the dyno early next week. If things go south again Ill just take my time for the rest of the year going through some research and try it again next year. I have accomplished alot in 2 years and starting to get burned out and tired of spending $ Amen. I didn't mean to mess with your swag -- love seeing updates to this project!! Not sure if you are keen about oil/mist being introduced into the intake track (or exhaust), but you can size & place a venturi in-line with either to use an el natural vacuumn effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevans Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Nice build...Good Luck sorting it out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolrayz Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Love the pictures of the new fuel system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted June 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Ended getting a bung welded in breather and the vally cover, then welded a little tray under it to shield oil misting. Hoping to just help breathing under heavy boost pressures. New valve covers from nasty performance will be here Monday then see how it goes. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/1972nova/5825429a.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/1972nova/5db5e038.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/1972nova/da69c2ca.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I loved having those same problems on my car. Hope you get them sorted out soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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