im faster Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Symptoms.. When hitting a bump. the front drives side make a noise.. best way to describe it is the sound a door stop makes(the spring kind) when you boing it... just not as much does it maybe 4/7 times.. also get a little shaking at high speeds like a unbalance wheel.. (brand new tires a week or so ago.. check for balance yesterday) I first went to Pepboys to have the balance checked.. i ended up needing new tires so i bought them somewhere else.. but the guy siad i needed a tie rod replaced.. on that side.. looking out it.. the rubber is cracked.. now... the wheel is off.. i see the crack in the rubber... but by my arm strength it doesnt really have much play.. from what i can tell..(i know nothing about tie rods) so what do you think the problem is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 are you checking tie rod play with the wheel on or off? it needs to be on and then wiggle the wheel back and forth to check for play. with the wheel off the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted April 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 ill put it back on and check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted April 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 okay.. hands at 12 and 6 no play.. hands at 3 and 9 there is some play.. rough guess is 1cm or so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 12-6 = wheel bearing is tight 3-9 = tie rod junk. double check that is is indeed the outer tie rod end and not the inner tie rod that is loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted April 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 How can I tell which? It will it be obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted April 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 well i replaced the outter.. SUPER EASY... took like 5 min.. but still have the same issue..(3 and 9 movement ) the inner looks a lot more difficult... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 you should have double checked. have someone shake the wheel while you watch to see what moves. also check your lower ball joint. you also need an alignment now since you removed and replaced the tie rod end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted April 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 well the outer was ripped.. and needed replaced anyway.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 the inner looks a lot more difficult... inner's can be a bitch. Last time I had to do one I had use a dremel to cut about 1/2inch off of a 22mm socket in order to get the socket on the nut (tight squeeze on those firewall mounted racks). Also did they RFB balance your tires (road force balance) or just use the old spin-style balancer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted April 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 i dont know how they balanced.. and i found a tool to do them fairly easy.. BUT.. the one at autozne isnt thr eight size.. of course.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 take it to have aligned and mention the slop. they'll let you know what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted April 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 the sound its making is whats is worrying me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 the sound its making is whats is worrying me.. is the sound only audible when you go over bumps? If so it's likely a ball joint, and yes you should be worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted April 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Yes but doesnt make the "normal " ball joint POP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Yes but doesnt make the "normal " ball joint POP From what you have i've gathered you're hearing some sort of "springing" sound right? Ball joints/Strut mounts/swaybar links should produce a dull "thud" or rattle. A "springing sound" likely indicates a worn bushing (likely control arm if it's only noticeable over bumbs). Jack the car up, then take a look at all the suspension junctions. Are any of the bushings/grommets loose/deformed/cracked/missing?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted April 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 From what you have i've gathered you're hearing some sort of "springing" sound right? Ball joints/Strut mounts/swaybar links should produce a dull "thud" or rattle. A "springing sound" likely indicates a worn bushing (likely control arm if it's only noticeable over bumbs). Jack the car up, then take a look at all the suspension junctions. Are any of the bushings/grommets loose/deformed/cracked/missing?. Well i grabbed the swaybar. and its making a noised i shake it... so i go and buy a swaybar link.. now i cant get the old off... when i spin the nut.. the end where it is connected just spins also.. AHHHHHH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im faster Posted April 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 well i got it... the bottom link ended up breaking sound is gone now.. just reaaaaally need an alignment.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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