crummer Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Found this interesting, RWD four cylinder offering from Toyota (maybe under Scion) 2,600 lbs and ~200hp, paddle shifters, low center of gravity. http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-57332107-48/toyotas-ft-86-gets-production-specs-new-gt-86-moniker/?tag=mncol;txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10phone2 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 welcome to two months ago. Besides me being a smart ass, Toyota can go fuck themselves. They are releasing a different version of the Hyundai Genesis with a lower center of gravity. All they would have to do is release a turbo 1fz with a manual option in a redesigned Supra and it would be game over. Hell even a turboed 2/3rz engine in a redesigned ae86 would be moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1647545492 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 We need a new crop of cars that would be fun to drive and replace the 90,s imports, so everybody go out and buy one of these and then we will eventually get the real thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I saw this a few years ago when it was introduced as the HAYHUNDAYH GENESISISIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10phone2 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 get back to basics and go from there: http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Rod%202010/Event/Las%20Vegas/VegasROD-0835.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I dig it, but only if we can easily tack on another 100hp+ The Subaru Turbo version could be seriously awesome. Around 300hp, RWD, 6Mt. Could be a great track car base for a lot of people, or a weekend Auto-X fun car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 All I'm sayin'. http://jalopnik.com/5866465/yes-toyota-and-subaru-can-save-driving?utm_source=Jalopnik+Newsletter&utm_campaign=6c12d76594-UA-142218-9&utm_medium=email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I'd consider the Subaru version if it had 400hp+....but N/A 200hp hell NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 In order for this car to really "save" driving it will have to have some power. Otherwise this will fall into the same bucket as the RX8. There is simply no room for "cars that handle really well but get passed on the highway by a minivan with 5 kids in it. The RX-8 was arguably one of the best handling cars in recent years from the factory, but had the power of a slug, of course it had a shitt non-mod liking power plant as well> This thing COULD WORK if they offer a turbo version, or it's really really easy to strap on another 150-200hp. The weight is right, the right wheels are being driven, it's a manual. You just need that last little thing to push people over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 An underpowered car that turns good.. you'll need that to avoid Ohio's pot holes otherwise that gokart will absorb everything through your spinal cord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crummer Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 sounded like a solid platform especially with keeping the weight down. power to weight ratio looks to be similar if not slightly better than the miata, gti, mini cooper. although the 1000 lb lighter elise would run circles around it..... sorry if a repost, I did a quick search for toyota 86 and came up blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 A new Elise msrp's well over twice as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crummer Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 agreed but it sets the standard for power to weight @ 200 hp level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 kinda looks like a genisis from the rear and vaguely like a jaguar xke from the front (kinda like when ford still owned jaguar). I had no idea that toyota and subaru were working together though (or toyota was sourcing a motor from subaru anyhow) should be interesting though if subie parts would work with this motor, maybe toyota would do a trd edition then hopefully with a power range near that of an sti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I think the proportions are thrown off in pictures. It's A FOOT shorter than an Genesis Coupe and something like 16 inches shorter than a Porche Cayman. Hopefully it doesn't look like a clown car in person, but I like the concept. I'm picturing something the size of an Elise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 All I'm sayin'. http://jalopnik.com/5866465/yes-toyota-and-subaru-can-save-driving?utm_source=Jalopnik+Newsletter&utm_campaign=6c12d76594-UA-142218-9&utm_medium=email This. ^ Read that article this morning. This is what I've been trying to tell people. I have a car with power, anyway. This car is for driving like I used to enjoy. Also: You cannot even begin to compare it to a damn Genesis. Say it again, so I know what an uneducated retard sounds like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Gump 9 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 The question is, will the 2jz or LSx fit in the engine bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 The question is, will the 2jz or LSx fit in the engine bay? brb buying 20k + car to do motor swap :dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwg2189 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 +1 for turbo. Subaru has confirmed they've made a turbo BRZ engine, but there's no plans to sell a turbo BRZ vehicle... Turbocharged 2014 BRZ STi maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Why pay more? I'll take Factory Five's midengine mounted TURBO Boxer, the "818", I already have the title for my 05 WRX Wagon as the donor. Just a Turbo, injectors, and E85 tune away from 350+ RWHP. Oh and it's suposed to weigh in at 1800 LBS and cost me $10,000. FT-86/BRZ :lolguy: Be Toyota/Subaru and continue to do it wrong. http://www.factoryfive.com/whatsnew/update/nextcar/818intro.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Why pay more? I'll take Factory Five's midengine mounted TURBO Boxer, the "818", I already have the title for my 05 WRX Wagon as the donor. Just a Turbo, injectors, and E85 tune away from 350+ RWHP. Oh and it's suposed to weigh in at 1800 LBS and cost me $10,000. FT-86/BRZ :lolguy: Be Toyota/Subaru and continue to do it wrong. http://www.factoryfive.com/whatsnew/update/nextcar/818intro.html 9k for a tube an a box of parts you still have to build and paint it. Thats before you add in your donor drivetrain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 9k for a tube an a box of parts you still have to build and paint it. Thats before you add in your donor drivetrain. Do you not read? No paint, body is "gel coated" from the factory and I already have the Donor car. And someone to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Do you not read? No paint, body is "gel coated" from the factory and I already have the Donor car. I'm sure your wife will approve of her car being turned into a toy and a gelcoat is far from a finished product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I'm sure your wife will approve of her car being turned into a toy and a gelcoat is far from a finished product. She's getting a new car soon. So yes she approves mainly becasue My name is on the title. She will be happy to drive a new car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 In order for this car to really "save" driving it will have to have some power. Otherwise this will fall into the same bucket as the RX8. There is simply no room for "cars that handle really well but get passed on the highway by a minivan with 5 kids in it. The RX-8 was arguably one of the best handling cars in recent years from the factory, but had the power of a slug, of course it had a shitt non-mod liking power plant as well. No, the RX-8 was an overpriced 3000 lb touring car. Nobody wanted to pay 30+ grand to get passed by a minivan. The FR-S will compete head to head with the Miata. It's within a hair's width of the Miata in all dimensions, unlike the Genesis/370Z which are both much larger, despite not having any more seats. It's more powerful than a Miata, weighs roughly the same, and crucially, isn't any more expensive. And the Miata is doing just fine. It's hands down the most popular amateur road racing car, by the numbers, on the planet. That's not to say that the FR-S won't be a flop, but if it is, it won't be because of its specs, or lack thereof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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