I Eat Rice Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 I am going to be buying a new car here in the spring. What I want is a car I can cruise but also can beat on it and have it hold higher power numbers with some reliability . I for a long time was pretty set on a c5 because I miss my old ls1 car so much but now I have been looking into other rwd platforms that can also be freeway top end beasts. I have been looking into the supras recently and a few other import rwd cars and have found quite a few in my price range which will be around 25k and under. I would rather stay more around 20k to the high teens but if I were to find the right car with the right things done already I would not mind spending some more money on it to get what I want. Any info would be greatly welcomed and ie pros and cons of the car and even other car options as well that I have may looked over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10phone2 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 A 2jz with simple parts can put down 500-800 with the right tuning. Hell, even a built Toyota auto with a stock block 2jz. The 2jz is one of the few engines that you do not need an aftermarket block or sleeving order to sustain abuse. Matt Lennen has been 8.89 with a factory Toyota auto: http://www.boostlogic.com/blog/2011/10/matt-lennon-resets-supra-stock-auto-record-with-his-boost-logic-transmission/ If I were to spend 20-25k on a fun car, I would consider a 2jz swapped 240. 40 psi in a lightweight car would bonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Mark IV's will hold there value much better then a 240 or a C5, not to mention they are downright sexsay, Get a Mark IV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Eat Rice Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 A 2jz with simple parts can put down 500-800 with the right tuning. Hell, even a built Toyota auto with a stock block 2jz. The 2jz is one of the few engines that you do not need an aftermarket block or sleeving order to sustain abuse. Matt Lennen has been 8.89 with a factory Toyota auto: http://www.boostlogic.com/blog/2011/10/matt-lennon-resets-supra-stock-auto-record-with-his-boost-logic-transmission/ If I were to spend 20-25k on a fun car, I would consider a 2jz swapped 240. 40 psi in a lightweight car would bonkers. Ya I have read and seen many people who have put down 800+hp on stock blocks with no problems. The 240 is nice but if I did that I would just ls1 swap due to more availability of motors and other parts. I really like the look of the supra and if I ever did get board with it I could ls7 swap in the future which is what I would do with a c5 too. Who can tune these cars locally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 LS1 G-body.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Great roll car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex L. Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Who can tune these cars locally? Do it yourself, it's not hard. PM me with any questions you have about the cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwilli1647545487 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Great roll car. What's your best ET? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBaustert Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Do it yourself, it's not hard. PM me with any questions you have about the cars. If you go with an AEM or Haltech (Recommended), basically any good standalone, I've got a guy who is very knowledgeable in making big power with these cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwilli1647545487 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 alex knows whats he's doing, thats what I'm saying. If i had a Supra, it would be in his hands. Not sure if serious.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex L. Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Add timing till it knocks and then pull it back degree by degree. Dial your fuel map in to the desired A/F ratio throughout and smooth the details. Review your logs with each step to make sure all parameters are in accordance. With some research, willingness to learn, and advice, anyone can do it. Edited January 15, 2012 by Alex L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Keep this on topic, cleaned up non-relevant bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwilli1647545487 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 BTW to the OP, I know of a Black/Black 6spd BPU+++++ car that may be for sale this Spring in your price range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDHG940 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 LS1 G-body.... Nasty and classy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBaustert Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Add timing till it knocks and then pull it back degree by degree. Dial your fuel map in to the desired A/F ratio throughout and smooth the details. Review your logs with each step to make sure all parameters are in accordance. With some research, willingness to learn, and advice, anyone can do it. I really hope you're joking. That dsm tuning is not good for a car. Use a dyno and get fuel trims in order. Add timing until it makes no more power, if 1* more only yields 1hp in that rpm range, take the timing away, not worth it. That's why you use a dyno and not the street. Steady stating is your friend when it comes to drivability also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Eat Rice Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Do it yourself, it's not hard. PM me with any questions you have about the cars. I know the basics about them but honestly when it comes to working on cars I change oil and put gas in the car ha ha. I do not like working on them thats why there are professionals who accept cash and visa If you go with an AEM or Haltech (Recommended), basically any good standalone, I've got a guy who is very knowledgeable in making big power with these cars. Sounds good. Right now I am still in the research phase. I still really like c5's but the more I look at the supra I am liking them more and more. Plus I have never had a boosted car before. BTW to the OP, I know of a Black/Black 6spd BPU+++++ car that may be for sale this Spring in your price range. Hell ya keep me informed. I have found many stock cars for around 16 to 18k with between 60,000 and 100,000 miles. I have also found a few built single turbo cars for not much more making very good power and the people wanting to just unload them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex L. Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I really hope you're joking. That dsm tuning is not good for a car. Use a dyno and get fuel trims in order. Add timing until it makes no more power, if 1* more only yields 1hp in that rpm range, take the timing away, not worth it.That's why you use a dyno and not the street. Steady stating is your friend when it comes to drivability also. All of this is true, my previous post didn't come out as I meant it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 LS1 G-body.... This will be in the works this fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Nasty and classy And for the money Dave is looking to spend you could build a whole lot of car. Something like this http://www.racingjunk.com/Monte-Carlo/2439136/86-Chevy-Monte-Carlo-SS.html or this http://www.racingjunk.com/Chevrolet/2443266/1979-Malibu-400sbc-Cruiser.html Or maybe an ex race car and put it back to street trim, stick in a LQ4 with a mild build and enjoy. http://www.racingjunk.com/Door-Cars/2436439/1980-Malibu-Back-half.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpfiend Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I looked at these as well before going with my c5z... they are sharp but very overpriced IMO... for a little more money I got an extremely low mileage one owner car that was built to run low 12s from the factory and all parts were under 5 years old at the time as opposed to 15-16 years old for only a little less money. Aren't they very heavy as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBaustert Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 ~38xx# IIRC. I like the way they drive alot, not good for doing any road course or AUTOX but a great cruiser car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 LC2 w/6 speed MT G-body.... FIFY :fuckyeah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Eat Rice Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 And for the money Dave is looking to spend you could build a whole lot of car. Something like this http://www.racingjunk.com/Monte-Carlo/2439136/86-Chevy-Monte-Carlo-SS.html or this http://www.racingjunk.com/Chevrolet/2443266/1979-Malibu-400sbc-Cruiser.html Or maybe an ex race car and put it back to street trim, stick in a LQ4 with a mild build and enjoy. http://www.racingjunk.com/Door-Cars/2436439/1980-Malibu-Back-half.html Not my style man. I have to look good while driving around and to me those cars are far from hot in my book. Plus I have no intentions of drag racing the car. It will happen to just set times but they car will only be tracked like 3 times a year. I want a cruiser, roll racer, car that will pull looks in the valet lot as much as the car meet lot. I know many people like those cars but they are far from my style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Eat Rice Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 So does anyone know common things to look for as to problems or are these cars like what I know ie no major oil leaks from the key spots and drive problems means the car should be ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 So does anyone know common things to look for as to problems or are these cars like what I know ie no major oil leaks from the key spots and drive problems means the car should be ok? Anything as old as a Supra and I'd run compression on it. As for Supra issues I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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