GilbWs6 Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Does anyone have any experience or insight on the Cruze 1.4? I'm considering picking on up for a work car. Drove it last night and it didn't seem to be too bad around town but on the highway felt like a little bit of a dog. Is 200 whp an obtainable number with minimal bolt ons and a tune? Not going for rice but would just be trying to get something that would be fun on a day to day basis with some economy mixed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRD2BDF Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I have a friend who has a Eco one with a manual. He's averaging 40-44 MPG all day, any day and he has a tune. I think it's making 170 hp and 200 wtq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 not 100 percent sure but I would think it being part of the eco family that you could make some decent changes to the motor and make good power. Now with that being said its so new you probably wont find a lot online about them but I would say they will probably find ways to put like lsj heads or 2.2 parts onto the motor. I may also be 100 percent wrong but that would be my first thoughts if looking to mod the motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilbWs6 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 This is an LTZ with an auto. Best I could get was about 32 from Dublin-Lancaster-Dublin. I would probably go with an air intake, tune, mid-pipe, and possibly a ZZP fmic. If an exhaust is made for this car that doesn't sound like a Fiber One fart, I would consider it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRD2BDF Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Forgot to mention that you will probably want to check out VTuner, he not only does magic with Saabs (Going to go to him next month to get the Saab tuned from 210 HP to 260 HP) Here's the link http://www.vtunerperformance.com/?p=54 Video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 yes doing a quick search zzp has some stuff already for the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilbWs6 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 yes doing a quick search zzp has some stuff already for the car. Saw that. I used a lot of their stuff when I had my GTP way back when. Always had good results. Just didn't know if anyone had witnessed any results first hand . If the car still feels like a turd with these things done to it, I may just wait and spend the extra money on a Regal Turbo or GS once we take in a used one at the right price. I'll probably just have to spend about $5,000 more to get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Forgot to mention that you will probably want to check out VTuner, he not only does magic with Saabs (Going to go to him next month to get the Saab tuned from 210 HP to 260 HP) Here's the link http://www.vtunerperformance.com/?p=54 Video They are just using HP tuner. IPS or Dyno Brian should be able to tune your car just like any other GM ECU. GM Cadillac/Buick/GMC/Saturn/Saab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I have driven quite a few autos at work and they all shift funny. It seems that with some wear they don't get any better either. I don't see them in for many issues, and all the recalls were just reprogramming and inspecting various things to make sure they were installed correctly. After the first year I haven't seen any new recalls for a while. Isn't much for me to say about these cars as they haven't been around long and they really haven't had many issues yet. I think that the Cruize is shaping up to be a great car for GM, and a really competetive car in its class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 make sure it has front brake pads... lol jk, seems like they are pretty nice cars, I wouldn't mind owning one myself, I really like what gm has done with the styling of some of theyre cars as well, I like that lancer-esque look to the front ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I would like to get my hands on one of these cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 what kind of power and mpgs do these get with a tune? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 They are just using HP tuner. IPS or Dyno Brian should be able to tune your car just like any other GM ECU. GM Cadillac/Buick/GMC/Saturn/Saab I don't think that's correct, unless they have some wierd relationship with Ken or Chris as they don't support the E78 controllers yet. Shouldn't be long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Its possible that ZZP is using Trifecta. They are the only ones I know that are tuning them. Will do some research after I get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilbWs6 Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 From what I saw on ZZP's website, they're using Trifecta and have their own bolt on products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 not 100 percent sure but I would think it being part of the eco family that you could make some decent changes to the motor and make good power. Now with that being said its so new you probably wont find a lot online about them but I would say they will probably find ways to put like lsj heads or 2.2 parts onto the motor. I may also be 100 percent wrong but that would be my first thoughts if looking to mod the motor The 1.4L is a different block than the 2.0/2.2/2.4L Ecotec's, so no parts swapping will happen. As far as mods, it sounds like an intercooler and a tune should be the first things. Trifecta has had some good results with the car, but the only way to get a manual is with the Eco, and that has a different rear suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 The 1.4L is a different block than the 2.0/2.2/2.4L Ecotec's, so no parts swapping will happen. As far as mods, it sounds like an intercooler and a tune should be the first things. Trifecta has had some good results with the car, but the only way to get a manual is with the Eco, and that has a different rear suspension. I heard part of the reason they achieved the fuel milage they do in the Eco is due to the fact the manual is setup to basically have 4 OD's. It's geared verrry long after a peppy 1st and 2nd gear. Of course, if you were to really get some good power in it, those longer gears could pay off for staying in boost longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC66Bronco Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 The 1.4L is a different block than the 2.0/2.2/2.4L Ecotec's, so no parts swapping will happen. As far as mods, it sounds like an intercooler and a tune should be the first things. Trifecta has had some good results with the car, but the only way to get a manual is with the Eco, and that has a different rear suspension. Bingo! They also have thin top ringlands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 The 1.4L is a different block than the 2.0/2.2/2.4L Ecotec's, so no parts swapping will happen. As far as mods, it sounds like an intercooler and a tune should be the first things. Trifecta has had some good results with the car, but the only way to get a manual is with the Eco, and that has a different rear suspension. Phil - do you know the story on the different rear suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I *THINK* it's just a torsion beam. The rear Watt’s linkage and the regular spare tire are jettisoned to shed about 250 pounds of mass. GM has deleted the Z-link rear suspension in favor of a standard torsion bar to skimp on pounds, though the absence isn't noticeable during long commutes or in abrupt stop-and-go driving. And you get different half shafts: More interesting still is that the Cruze Eco has sacrificed its intermediate driveshaft in favor of two unequal-length half shafts to conserve weight. GM went with the original design to keep torque-steer at bay with both the 1.4-liter four-cylinder and the 1.8-liter four-pot, but the trade-off was deemed worthwhile when it came to the hyper-efficient version of the Cruze. After our time behind the wheel, we have to wonder why GM felt the intermediate shaft was necessary on the standard Cruze at all. With 138 horsepower and 148 pound-feet of torque on hand, we didn't exactly find ourselves fighting the steering wheel at every stoplight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I heard part of the reason they achieved the fuel milage they do in the Eco is due to the fact the manual is setup to basically have 4 OD's. It's geared verrry long after a peppy 1st and 2nd gear. Of course, if you were to really get some good power in it, those longer gears could pay off for staying in boost longer. and they run really hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkside Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 but the only way to get a manual is with the Eco, and that has a different rear suspension. Not true. You can get a manual in any of the models. I'm enjoying mine as a DD with very good gas mileage, but it does feel sluggish while stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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