nurkvinny Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Sounds somehow "wrong", right? Can you imagine the media backlash that would flow for weeks if Santorum or Romney or any other candidate created such a site and video promoting said site? Your current president sees no issue with his "African Americans for Obama" program and site. I heard it on a very right-leaning radio show, so I assumed some crazy had called in not knowing what he was talking about. Right? Nope. Discuss. Keep it civil please. I know this is the Kitchen, because I know better that that's where this topic will eventually go, but I'd like honest thoughts... http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/aafo.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 its amazing how white people are afraid to call black people racist. PS-im fully aware not everyone is racist. I just think its such a double standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolrayz Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 IO1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 its amazing how white people are afraid to call black people racist. PS-im fully aware not everyone is racist. I just think its such a double standard. +1 Black people are more prejudice towards white folk than most whites are towards black folks(at least from my experiences). Cant keep pulling the slavery card forever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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V8 Beast Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 If you think about it hes not the first politician to openly target the black votes as a means to win an election. Hes just the first black president to target the black vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOZZER Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 its amazing how white people are afraid to call black people racist. PS-im fully aware not everyone is racist. I just think its such a double standard. I'm not but then I also think everyone is racist to some degree. Although, honestly, I never really ever think of race or age any more. I suppose it's getting older and wiser to some degree. Does it really matter any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 the white male da most oppressed species on da earf rite now, ril talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 If you think about it hes not the first politician to openly target the black votes as a means to win an election. Hes just the first black president to target the black vote. hes doing that because he knows black people will come outta the woodwork again just to vote for a black person!! Its bullshit that he can get away with calling on his brothas to vote for him. "obama gonna pay my mortgage and my gas bill!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 geues bein success paints a target o ya back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 hes doing that because he knows black people will come outta the woodwork again just to vote for a black person!! Its bullshit that he can get away with calling on his brothas to vote for him. "obama gonna pay my mortgage and my gas bill!!!" Ignorant Bush targets minorities and its a great strategy to get elected. Obama does it and hes a racist... Im not pro-Obama but I am anti-ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 As best as I am able - this being the kitchen and all - to keep this on some kind of track... I was really more pointing out what Hell would be unleashed if a white candidate tried this approach. Obviously, every candidate wants every black vote, white vote, gay vote, woman vote, college vote, green vote he can get. A side question: do you think a Hispanic candidate would catch any shit for creating a "Hispanics for Xxxxxx" site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 As best as I am able - this being the kitchen and all - to keep this on some kind of track... I was really more pointing out what Hell would be unleashed if a white candidate tried this approach. Obviously, every candidate wants every black vote, white vote, gay vote, woman vote, college vote, green vote he can get. A side question: do you think a Hispanic candidate would catch any shit for creating a "Hispanics for Xxxxxx" site? Actually if Santorum had a site called Irishmen for Santorum it would be fine. You dont see people boycotting Irish festivals or calling them racist for not calling them "everyone festivals". :lolguy: Caucasian covers too much. African Americans were pigeon holed into one group years ago... Just like we are doing to "Latinos/Hispanics" now. Caucasians cover so many different groups, but when broken down to Jewish, Irish, German, etc. people dont complain that they seperate themselves from others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Ignorant Bush targets minorities and its a great strategy to get elected. Obama does it and hes a racist... Im not pro-Obama but I am anti-ignorance. You know, I listened to "Charles from Ohio" call in to a show this morning and although he acknowledged all of the things Obama has messed up, he still stated he was going to get out and support him because he was black and white conservatives had kept his people down... back in the 1700's. Not saying all voters follow that thought process, but they are definitely out there. EDIT - yes, just like white racists will vote against Obama because he is black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Ignorant Bush targets minorities and its a great strategy to get elected. Obama does it and hes a racist... Im not pro-Obama but I am anti-ignorance. thats totally different and you know it. The black vote was relatively small until obama showed promise of being elected. Thats when he started to call on the millions of blacks that have never voted in their lives. All I'm saying is for being a president that wants to end "racism" he's doing an awfully shitty job at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I guess in theory, whites and blacks should love him equally since he is 50% black and 50% white. Right? Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Actually if Santorum had a site called Irishmen for Santorum it would be fine. You dont see people boycotting Irish festivals or calling them racist for not calling them "everyone festivals". :lolguy: Caucasian covers too much. African Americans were pigeon holed into one group years ago... Just like we are doing to "Latinos/Hispanics" now. Caucasians cover so many different groups, but when broken down to Jewish, Irish, German, etc. people dont complain that they seperate themselves from others. Never knew Irish was a race.............?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I guess in theory, whites and blacks should love him equally since he is 50% black and 50% white. Right? Right? He is a great orator. Must be the white in him. :lolguy: I hear the ladies like him because of his blackness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbird Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Is Obama racist for this? Hardly. Is he intelligent for this? Absolutely. However, would a leading white candidate catch major shit for promoting a "Whites for XXXXXX" group? Without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I guess in theory, whites and blacks should love him equally since he is 50% black and 50% white. Right? Right? he was born in hawaii, wouldn't that make him somoan? :gabe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Never knew Irish was a race.............?? My point... Try to break down African American like Caucasion in a way that would allow for seperate festivals? African Americans in many ways have no choice but to be one big whole because the history is hard to track. It would be great to have XXX festivals. It would be great if Obama could make a site called Mbundus for Obama. All he has to work with is the whole race. He cant pick a culture to target so its all or nothing. To me he lost it in the positioning. You never make one vote appear more important than another. When Im working with people at work I tell them not to set number goals because it puts a cap on and possibly limits what they do. By targeting one race he is pushing other races away and limiting the people he can reach. I dont think hes smart at all for doing this. For every black vote you gain you get 1 white guy that makes a thread like this pissing off 10 other white guys .. some of which may have been pro-Obama until they read about the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 My point... Try to break down African American like Caucasion in a way that would allow for seperate festivals? African Americans in many ways have no choice but to be one big whole because the history is hard to track. It would be great to have XXX festivals. It would be great if Obama could make a site called Mbundus for Obama. All he has to work with is the whole race. He cant pick a culture to target so its all or nothing. To me he lost it in the positioning. You never make one vote appear more important than another. When Im working with people at work I tell them not to set number goals because it puts a cap on what they may be able to do. By targeting one race he is pushing other races away and limiting the people he can reach. I dont think hes smart at all for doing this. For every black vote you gain you get 1 white guy that makes a thread like this pissing off 10 other white guys .. some of which may have been pro-Obama until they read about the site. Im sorry, but if your born here in America, your American. I don't go round claiming to be this raging italian/german/english. Same goes for african american. Its fine to recognize your history as a race, but lets get real we are Americans. Its also apples to oranges when you try to compare irish to mbundus. Note: i do agree that its foolish to target any group like that, because he will lose other race votes. racism sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 For every black vote you gain you get 1 white guy that makes a thread like this pissing off 10 other white guys .. some of which may have been pro-Obama until they read about the site. :gabe: Was going for 100, minimum. :gabe::gabe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Im sorry, but if your born here in America, your American. I don't go round claiming to be this raging italian/german/english. Same goes for african american. Its fine to recognize your history as a race, but lets get real we are Americans. Its also apples to oranges when you try to compare irish to mbundus. Note: i do agree that its foolish to target any group like that, because he will lose other race votes. racism sucks I agree with you. At this point we are all mutts anyway. P.S. You just claimed to be a raging Italian, German, English guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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