AWW$HEEET Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Anyone rocking this oil in normal non diesel vehicles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyM3rC Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I've run it in various gasoline engines short-term and not had any problems. Ran it in an old beater motorcycle once and it was also fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Rotella T & M1 TDT oil are both very good oils regardless of their use in gas or diesel. Look on Bobistheoilguy, you can find tons of tests & uao's on just about every oil existance. Lots of times you can find your specific type of vehicle and see how it holds up for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGU Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I run the shell rotella T 5w40 in my legacy and my SC no issues here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolrayz Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I ran the rotella in the TA. The engine builder said the bearings looked like new after two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 fwiw the fleet diesel guys I sell to say rotella is junk they all go for the mobil delvac or the chevron delo 400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Alot of the caddy guys run it in there 1st gen Northstars, something about higher levels of zinc or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankis Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I've heard of some of the more serious vr-4 3000gt engine builders running rotella t, not sure on what weight. Seems like diesel oils are generally higher quality than standard oils, but among diesel oils there are better choices than rotella. I can say that my dad runs valvoline premium blue in his cummins, and he seemed to do quite a bit of research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOxley Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 T6 in my STI, no problems at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Also heard running normal oil + STP oil treatment (http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1452145&CAWELAID=326623475) will give you the same benefits as rotella as the STP stuff has crazy high levels of zinc/zddp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Alot of the caddy guys run it in there 1st gen Northstars, something about higher levels of zinc or something. The higher zddp levels are no longer in diesel oil. zddp is actually lower in diesel than regular oils anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankis Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 The higher zddp levels are no longer in diesel oil. zddp is actually lower in diesel than regular oils anymore. I imagine this is in order to meet the diesel emissions/exhaust filtering standards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOZZER Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I use it in my Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 The higher zddp levels are no longer in diesel oil. zddp is actually lower in diesel than regular oils anymore. Wasn't increased zddp the whole reason to run diesel oil (rotella) in the first place:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Wasn't increased zddp the whole reason to run diesel oil (rotella) in the first place:confused: Yes. But as spankis mentioned, the diesel emissions changed and they took the zddp out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Ran it in my husky. Those guys swore by it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOZZER Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Yes. But as spankis mentioned, the diesel emissions changed and they took the zddp out. Correct. When they did this it caused problems in Powerstroke injectors and in other motors as well. I will be running Motorcraft 15w40 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Correct. When they did this it caused problems in Powerstroke injectors and in other motors as well. I will be running Motorcraft 15w40 this year. How so? Serious question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOZZER Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 How so? Serious question In the 7.3 and 6.0 diesels the injectors run off of high pressure oil. The change in oil chemistry caused the injectors to stick slightly. This results in premature injector failure and other issues in the 6.4 and 6.7 engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidward Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I plan on tunning it in the dsm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 In the 7.3 and 6.0 diesels the injectors run off of high pressure oil. The change in oil chemistry caused the injectors to stick slightly. This results in premature injector failure and other issues in the 6.4 and 6.7 engines. 90% of the time it's not an actual mechanical failure. It's sticktion. The 6.0l injector issues can almost always be cured with an oil additive. Then with the 6.4s and newer they're a common rail so no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbracing81 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 All very good info. I have been running rotella in my Cutlass for years. O do belive I will do some checking and get something better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I run it in my Mazdaspeed 3- it came highly recommended. The reason I was given is it resists breaking down when being diluted with gas which happens in direct injection applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolrayz Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I ran the rotella in the TA. The engine builder said the bearings looked like new after two years. I might add that I always add about a third of a bottle of engine break in additive with every oil change in all of my vehicles. Fuck the EPA I will put whatever I want in my oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOZZER Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 In the 7.3 and 6.0 diesels the injectors run off of high pressure oil. The change in oil chemistry caused the injectors to stick slightly. This results in premature injector failure and other issues in the 6.4 and 6.7 engines. 90% of the time it's not an actual mechanical failure. It's sticktion. The 6.0l injector issues can almost always be cured with an oil additive. Then with the 6.4s and newer they're a common rail so no issues. Read closer to my post (hint its in red ) The end result is failure. Yes the newer engines are common rail. Go ahead and use it in the if you wish its your choice. Just saying when I worked for a Ford dealer as a diesel tech it caused issues and not recommended to use it in Powerstrokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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