TurboGoKart Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I've also heard personally from some local people who tried to vote, and when they touched on the "Romney" button, their vote came up as Obama. The numbers in this article are pretty disturbing. http://www.infowars.com/fraud-obama-won-more-than-99-percent-of-the-vote-in-more-than-100-ohio-precincts-2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Alex Jones.... So because numbers are XYZ must be fraud. If you look at the numbers in one of his links they don't appear to jive with that Alex is preaching..... 0417 CLEVELAND -16-J.02 0 0 0 0 9 1 0 0 0 0 This is a good example of why his numbers are kinda BS. Notice there 9 votes for Obama and 1 for mitt. Why go so far as to make it 9.. there are also aresas where no one voted.... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Funny how everything out of this Alex Jones's website and mouth is a long list of conspiracy theories. Seems like a touchscreen glitch, mine worked fine, if it acted this way I would have demanded a new machine and not cast my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshymkiw83 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Look at the areas in question - you honestly think anyone in EAST Cleveland is voting for Romney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Even if it were a sam, glitch, or what have you, you can't review and overturn the play after the ball is snapped for the next play. Wouldn't change a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Those do indeed look a little too odd to be true but as stated, we will never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Even if it were a sam, glitch, or what have you, you can't review and overturn the play after the ball is snapped for the next play. Wouldn't change a thing. In that case the next play doesnt start for another 4 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGoKart Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 ^^Years? Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 That's why I used a paper ballod, though those can be cheated at too. The security of these machines are highly questionable though, and we should be quite demanding of their verifiable accuracy. Dems were certainly calling for that in 04. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 ^^Years? Lol. no, the official announcement is 10 days after the polls close. gives them time to count absentee ballots. So, they still have 4 days to figure this election fraud out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan9381 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 if it acted this way I would have demanded a new machine and not cast my vote. Get the fuck out of here with your common sense. It's not welcome round these parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Voting fraud wins a democrat an election? JFK would be horrified at this, oh wait.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I love the one video I could find showed it being in mitts favor and the video looks chopped ........ There's a reason why the eltronic voting machines require you to PUSH NEXT!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye1647545503 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 People spend millions to secure favoriteable vote in government, if you think they would not stoop low enough to tamper with a electronic device that would be super hard to trace back and punish just becouse it is "not rite " or illegal. You must still believe in Santa too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furloaf Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Shhh... Guys, we're supposed to be fixated on the CIA affair scandal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyall86 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Same issues happened other places but in this case it was Obama voters having issues... http://gizmodo.com/5958105/this-voting-machine-wont-let-you-vote-for-obama Came down to calibration issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I don't understand people who decry the touchscreen voting machines as unrealiable and too easy to tamper with, then turn around and say they'd rather use a paper punch or scantron system. ALL of those systems are fed through computers. ALL are capable of being tampered with at the database level. If anything, the older versions are easier to tamper with because you believe your vote is being recorded the way you wanted, but the sheet of paper with your vote on it is no longer in your possession. And do you REALLY think that if someone was rigging the machines they'd SHOW your vote being changed?? Please.. Why show the changed vote when you can have the person press the vote they want (or punch, or fill-in, btw) and then record the vote as the choice you want? It's moronic to have it change the vote on the screen where it would get someone's attention. No, what's happening here is that some nose-picking moron put their slime-covered finger on the screen, leaving a damp print behind. Or the attendants used too much cleaning solution to clean the screen, leaving some water at the edges. The end result is that the next person who touches the screen get their print averaged with the wet print and the computer thinks they're touching the screen somewhere between. If you've ever used your touch-screen phone with wet fingers, you know how it can screw up the screen response. The idea that there is some conspiracy that's programmed the machines to change the vote on the screen is utterly laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I don't understand people who decry the touchscreen voting machines as unrealiable and too easy to tamper with, then turn around and say they'd rather use a paper punch or scantron system. ALL of those systems are fed through computers. ALL are capable of being tampered with at the database level. If anything, the older versions are easier to tamper with because you believe your vote is being recorded the way you wanted, but the sheet of paper with your vote on it is no longer in your possession. And do you REALLY think that if someone was rigging the machines they'd SHOW your vote being changed?? Please.. Why show the changed vote when you can have the person press the vote they want (or punch, or fill-in, btw) and then record the vote as the choice you want? It's moronic to have it change the vote on the screen where it would get someone's attention. No, what's happening here is that some nose-picking moron put their slime-covered finger on the screen, leaving a damp print behind. Or the attendants used too much cleaning solution to clean the screen, leaving some water at the edges. The end result is that the next person who touches the screen get their print averaged with the wet print and the computer thinks they're touching the screen somewhere between. If you've ever used your touch-screen phone with wet fingers, you know how it can screw up the screen response. The idea that there is some conspiracy that's programmed the machines to change the vote on the screen is utterly laughable. I agree. There is hundreds of thousands, possibly near a million of those touch screen voting machines out there. For only a few of them to come up with issues that just come down to screen calibration, that's pretty good. That's a better rate than Apple products lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Voting fraud wins a democrat an election? JFK would be horrified at this, oh wait.... Lulz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGoKart Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 And do you REALLY think that if someone was rigging the machines they'd SHOW your vote being changed?? Yes, plausable deniability. "Oh it's the machines fault....calibration issues....screen was still wet....etc." Otherwise, it's straight tampering and there's no explanation or plausable deniability. Bottom line is this, was the vote rigged? Yeah, I believe so. Can/will anything be done about it now? No. That part is irrelevant, what matters is doing whatever possible to get the man into office, then play disaster cleanup (ex. his birth certificate). This country is not about the welfare or best interests of the American people, it's about a politician furthering his own damn agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yes, plausable deniability. "Oh it's the machines fault....calibration issues....screen was still wet....etc." Otherwise, it's straight tampering and there's no explanation or plausable deniability. Bottom line is this, was the vote rigged? Yeah, I believe so. Can/will anything be done about it now? No. That part is irrelevant, what matters is doing whatever possible to get the man into office, then play disaster cleanup (ex. his birth certificate). This country is not about the welfare or best interests of the American people, it's about a politician furthering his own damn agenda. :lolguy: Please post more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Republicans need to just get over it for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yes, plausable deniability. "Oh it's the machines fault....calibration issues....screen was still wet....etc." Otherwise, it's straight tampering and there's no explanation or plausable deniability. Bottom line is this, was the vote rigged? Yeah, I believe so. Can/will anything be done about it now? No. That part is irrelevant, what matters is doing whatever possible to get the man into office, then play disaster cleanup (ex. his birth certificate). This country is not about the welfare or best interests of the American people, it's about a politician furthering his own damn agenda. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect What ACTUALLY happened is that more people in this country favored Obama over Romney. Not sure why it's so hard to understand that not everyone thinks the country should be run the way you think it should. But hey, maybe you should run for POTUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGoKart Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect I like that you used that link as a precursor to your post. Lulz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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