Moostang Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Discuss http://us.cnn.com/2013/04/17/politics/senate-guns-vote/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macpyro2 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 :thumbup::bangbang: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Good for now, but we all know the powers that be won't stop trying. No thanks. Just spurring me on to buy more firearms in spite of them. By Saturday I will own another one just for the hell of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Step in the right direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostang Posted April 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Presidents about to make a speech about gun violence here shortly today. Lmao should be talking about Boston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostang Posted April 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Good for now, but we all know the powers that be won't stop trying. No thanks. Just spurring me on to buy more firearms in spite of them. By Saturday I will own another one just for the hell of it. I agree. Not that I have anything to hide. Just want to get some more before its more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Presidents about to make a speech about gun violence here shortly today. Lmao should be talking about Boston. Can't wait to hear him discuss how unreasonable I am for not wanting to have more 'sensible' laws put in front of me to jump through, when his administration has the worst-ever record on enforcing existing ones. Prosecute 44 out of 76,000 (this only in 2010) people caught lying on federal background checks... preach how we need more background checks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostang Posted April 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Can't wait to hear him discuss how unreasonable I am for not wanting to have more 'sensible' laws put in front of me to jump through, when his administration has the worst-ever record on enforcing existing ones. Prosecute 44 out of 76,000 (this only in 2010) people caught lying on federal background checks... preach how we need more background checks. 90% of Americans wanted expanded background checks lol. Where do they get that #? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macpyro2 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Obama sounds very butthurt. And 90% is such a bullshit number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostang Posted April 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Obama sounds very butthurt. And 90% is such a bullshit number. Yea he's slamming the senate because he didn't get what he wanted. Which is why we have a congress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharris89 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 The 90% comes from the PETA meeting they polled in Chicago. Its a small victory but we'll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 For curiosity's sake, what do you guys feel was wrong with the legislation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey2721 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 why pass more laws when you dont enforce the ones on the books now? none of these bills would do anything to stop any of these previous mass shootings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 For curiosity's sake, what do you guys feel was wrong with the legislation? Stolen guns need no background checks. KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 I don't like the fact that, Of those who crossed party lines... "Nevada Sen. Harry Reid (Reid only voted no for procedural reasons, so that Democrats can call up the provision later on)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostang Posted April 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 For curiosity's sake, what do you guys feel was wrong with the legislation? One thing I was concerned about is when you sell a gun to a friend or another person on here you don't need to do a background check. You would if that bill passed. Also it's about Obama trying to take away our rights. Sure it wasn't really that bad but if he knows he can pass one he will try to pass harsher ones later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 For curiosity's sake, what do you guys feel was wrong with the legislation? Because everyone in their right mind understands that this legislation would do absolutely nothing in regards to preventing a mass shooting. Because NY has proven to everyone who has ever used the "slippery slope", "give an inch, they take a mile" arguments that they weren't just political obstructionists, and that whatever garbage they try to pass really is just an eventual gateway to even more restrictive laws. If 10 round magazine limits were safe, why bother pushing for 7 round limits? The next logical step is no guns with detachable magazines, and I bet you see such stupidity within the next ten years. Among others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 For curiosity's sake, what do you guys feel was wrong with the legislation? If I want to sell a close friend a firearm I prefer to not be required to pay for a background check. I am all for gunshop background checks. When it is business with unknown people, it's a whole different story. An example of related regulation would be, paying cash for a car. If I sell my Cobra and someone hands me 18k cash, no big deal. He gets his car, I get my money. If I sell a car on my lot for 18k cash, I have to fill out IRS forms detailing the cash transaction, the denominations of the bills, etc. Businesses should have more regulation than than individuals. Current legislation aligns with that. The proposed (and failed) did not. Kudos to them for shooting (pun intended) that garbage down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOxley Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 If I want to sell a close friend a firearm I prefer to not be required to pay for a background check. would you feel any responsibility if said friend killed anyone with said gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 would you feel any responsibility if said friend killed anyone with said gun? The same amount I would feel if they killed someone while driving a car I sold them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 would you feel any responsibility if said friend killed anyone with said gun? I'm sure he wouldn't be happy about it, but why are his friends' actions his responsibility again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostang Posted April 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm sure he wouldn't be happy about it, but why are his friends' actions his responsibility again? Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOxley Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 The same amount I would feel if they killed someone while driving a car I sold them. So if he took the keys from you and then ran down his girlfriend, you would not feel any responsibility? Guns are only designed to kill. Nothing else. Cars, forks, knives, hammers, toasters, pipes, baseball bats, candlesticks, dumbells, feet, hands, etc. have other uses. They CAN be used to kill, but the primary use of those things is not to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 The same amount I would feel if they killed someone while driving a car I sold them. Bingo. Came here to post this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanB Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 90% of Americans wanted expanded background checks lol. Where do they get that #? No way in hell that number's accurate, LOL. Maybe 90% of people in the most democratic states :dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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