natedogg624 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8dMRtxjoN0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GHDnhb6zok&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Maybe it's just me, but sliding the rear like that - how can that be faster than someone who rides within the limits of the tire? Good, bad, or indifferent - performance and lap time wise, why would sliding be desirable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 ^^^I agree to some extent. It slowed him up way too much and killed time from what I noticed in that 1st video. He wasn't railing around that turn too quick if you ask me. He was fucking around I would think, because if he did it differently he'd be much faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Ive posted those vids on here before. He is an old dirt rider and definitely has some skills. From everything I have read and learned, there is no time advantage to sliding it as much as he is doing. He is purposely sliding it as much as he can for the vids. There has been tests done that actually show that spinning the tire coming out of a turn tends to preserve tirelife.. this was an old test so I dont know if it still applies with the newer tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 ^^That's what I thought. Some he fucked around doing it so much he ruined his speed around the turn. Fun to watch nevertheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 he is riding that damn r1 like a supermoto haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Drordy Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) excessive sliding to show off doesn't produce fast lap times, but backing the bike in on slower turns like hairpins sets up the bike to point towards corner exit sooner which allows you to get on the throttle sooner.at least that's how I understand it. Edited April 23, 2009 by Kip Drordy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demitrix Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 excessive sliding to show off doesn't produce fast lap times, but backing the bike in on slower turns like hairpins sets up the bike to point towards corner exit sooner which allows you to get on the throttle sooner.at least that's how I understand it.Thats correct the idea is to have the bike pointing out of the corner before it really should be, its an old dirt riding trick...hence his ability to do it so effortlessly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catman Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 too much of that early and your tires are gone in no time !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrillo Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 too much of that early and your tires are gone in no time !!thats what I was thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukigsxr1000 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 bad ass song on the second vid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Maybe it's just me, but sliding the rear like that - how can that be faster than someone who rides within the limits of the tire? Good, bad, or indifferent - performance and lap time wise, why would sliding be desirable?The guy was show boating. Great bike control, but not the fastest way around. Good example is the bike with teh camera realed him in when he went sideways. Doing it for the camera...Sometimes, sliding is fast, but it isn't usually doing the swapping back and forth. Setting up and sliding under control is sometimes seen by guys when deep braking and using the rear to square the turn. They square it up and shoot out. These guys were sliding in and very slow at turn in and seemingly medium paced mid turn. Obviously, wicking the throttle on exit for rear wheel spinning...Again, GREAT bike control, but wasn't really that fast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 excessive sliding to show off doesn't produce fast lap times, but backing the bike in on slower turns like hairpins sets up the bike to point towards corner exit sooner which allows you to get on the throttle sooner.at least that's how I understand it.Squaring off the turn is slow in and fast out. Proper line choice of fast in and through will result in faster times. Hence, the reason why you don't see a lot of it anymore by even guys like Yates, McCoy, Nicky, etc. who did it a lot... But, not so much anymore... Still do, but it is a style thing.The guy in the vid is hamming it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 See I was right! Lizard confirmed it for me. : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 See I was right! Lizard confirmed it for me. :heres a cookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLN1223 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 :bow:To the rider in the video: You sir have bigger balls then me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) that's just a show for the camera. he isn't actually doing it right anyway.watch real racers..they slide it up to almost the apex on purpose sometimes. not that far out before the corner entrance.these are much better examples of how it's done...http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=690575076 Edited April 25, 2009 by serpentracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exSRAaron Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Cool stuff, but i cant stop thinking, what if: highside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC51 John Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Would be really cool till the OH SHIT moment comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I bet the onciming cages were saying OH SHIT in the end of that last video! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 That last video, they were good, but damn idiots. They can't stay in their lane. At the end dude almost clips a cars mirror trying to get over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC51 John Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 what's up with not being able to stay in your own lane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 They thought they were on a race track I'm assuming John. If you can't stay in your lane because of your speed on the road, then you're riding way too fast for the street and maybe even over your limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 yeah, they are idiots for sure. but it was a good example of doing it for real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 these are much better examples of how it's done...Crazy Greek Bikers 1 of 3 Video by Fratzeskos - MySpace VideoShit, 1:35 in that guy almost bit the big one. Damn near head-on with a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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