wagner Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2015/03/11/columbus-ohio-army-corps-recommends-draining-buckeye-lake-to-prevent-dam-failure.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wease Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I was just going to post this. Holy hell that is going to have a major ripple effect for that area. Your home on that lake won't be worth shit anymore, not to mention all of the other places where you can boat, will be even busier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 :dumb: :lolguy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Wow. $1MM+ gated communities with dock access LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyM3rC Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 buy it, drain it, pave it, race it http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cb/Hbfs_live.jpg/220px-Hbfs_live.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharris89 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 My company has been doing tax appeal work for owners who know the values have already fallen substantially since the recession. This will cripple what's left but at least maybe they will get rid of the toxic algae and ecoli while they are at it. In other news, I know a good place to go mud bogging in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 They'll fix it. They cant let Cranberry Island die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Well dam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson1647545504 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 http://runt-of-the-web.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/10-guy-meme-lakes.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Surely there's some other solution they can spend millions on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 This happened about 8-9 years ago with Delaware dam, they just slowly drained it and kept a watchful eye on it. Ended up just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 This happened about 8-9 years ago with Delaware dam, they just slowly drained it and kept a watchful eye on it. Ended up just fine. Slowly drained and did what? Repairs? http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/11/627dec1f234d76bf29ee8189171eb1bb.jpg Which side is the 4.1 mile dam? Little more here: http://www.newarkadvocate.com/story/news/local/2015/03/11/report-buckeye-lake-dam-dire-straits/70156464/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I thought the issue was with all the rain water and snow melting. Didn't realise it was an issue with the construction of the dam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 "The safest solution for eliminating the risk of flooding due to dam failure is to drain the lake permanently," the report read. The the safest solution to never getting rained on is to never go outside. Of course the report is going to say the safest solution to a flood is to remove all the water, it doesn't mean it is the smartest or best solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBMW Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I thought the issue was with all the rain water and snow melting. Didn't realise it was an issue with the construction of the dam. Guess Delaware isn't going to be so 'quiet' if they drain Buckeye Mud Puddle... -Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 That place has been and still is disgusting, in the summertime the shit covering the boardwalk from all the geese make it impossible to walk along. For homeowners out there, yeah it will suck if they drain it and never replace it. I never understood why those houses went for so damn much anyways, even to rent out there is asinine. I have heard from a lot of older folks that during the 70's and 80's you couldn't give a house away out there, then suddenly they were million dollar properties. I can't tell you the last time I have fished, swam or even boated out on Buckeye Lake and it's because of knowing just how nasty the water is. Buckeye Lake as a little town will be more dead than it already is. Even with the lake there, nothing survives and really nothing is there outside of a Creno's, Pizza Cottage and Gas Station. There used to be a pretty decent sized truck stop, but that folded up shop a few years ago and just sits as an empty lot now. They should put a casino there honestly. With all of this said, I have been reading stuff from other local residents that say they don't feel it's going to be drained. Rather the media is just picking up on that part of the story and feeding it to everyone. Maybe they will drain it, repair it and start over fresh, this time not allowing it to get to the level of nastiness that it is currently at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRTurbo04 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I was just going to post this. Holy hell that is going to have a major ripple effect for that area. Your home on that lake won't be worth shit anymore, not to mention all of the other places where you can boat, will be even busier... Yea i hope that doesnt happen cause alum creek will get busy and thats where i boat, and with it being a block from my new house it will suck if its shut down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Apex Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Buckeye will never be anything but muck, it has no natural water flow. Its only feed is essentially runoff, mostly from farms nearby hence all the issues with the water. I guess it would be a shame to see it go because it is what little economy exists out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Find out what impact all of the items listed in the one article have had and calculate what the priperty owners portion of the repairs will be. If your digging a pool weakens or costs damage why woulf you not be liable? You can reap the financial benefit of adding a pool on your property value at the cost to taxpayers in fixing subsequent damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lag wagon Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Buckeye Lake as a town would be a loss But don't forget the fine establishments of Thornville, like Papa Boo's and the Copper Penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankis Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Few things: The 10tv video report linked in the OP is dumb. What the reporter is standing in front of and referring to as the dam is in reality the hydraulic spillway just east of Pizza Cottage on 79. The spillway itself is intact and perfectly fine, it is simply located within the 4 mile long earthen dam (built into it), which is what is actually failing. The earthen dam itself stretches effectively from the Liebs Island boat ramp at Millersport east around to the North Bank boat ramp off 79. All other shores of the Lake are naturally higher than water level, or actually slope down to the lake. If you look closely when you drive down 79, nearly all of the homes are built into a slope about a 1.5 stories tall - that slope is the dam itself. THAT is what is deteriorating, very slowly buckling and pushing back against the pressure of the lake. In a multitude of places there is significant seepage of lakewater through the slope, which means that the dam is slowly becoming less dirt and more mud, less solid and more goo. Goo obviously doesn't make good dam material, and the potential for an acute mudslide-type rupture is what is being warned against. My grandparents live on the earthen dam (between the Yacht Club and the boat ramp), in a home my grandpa gutted and completely remodeled in the 80s. My grandpa also happens to be the zoning inspector for the village of buckeye lake, so I've been hearing bits and pieces about the issue for months. He deals with issuing permits for what can and cannot be built within the village, including on the lakefront and in the dam. The situation really is crazy, and it will be very interesting to hear what occurs. For those that aren't aware though, all the homes built into North bank have a sidewalk that runs in front of them between the house and the water, my grandpas included. The state actually owns the land between the each house and the lake itself, which varies between 8 and 20 feet of "easement" as you travel down North Bank. A realistic scenario would be to drain the lake (or at least keep the level low) and make repairs to the steel wall that reinforces the lake against the water. It would be a messy process and would interfere with many many docks, decks, flowerbeds, and sidewalks, but oh well I suppose. This picture shows the area that makes up the dam: http://cmsimg.newarkadvocate.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=BF&Date=20120914&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=209140301&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&New-structure-planned-replace-decaying-Buckeye-Lake-dam Its from this article, from 2012... http://www.newarkadvocate.com/article/20120914/NEWS01/209140301/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Wonder how many bodies they'll find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRust Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I fish buckeye a ton.. at its current level of "winter pool" there is still about 30-36" of water up against the metal wall(as measured near the yacht club) So to do any repairs to it, I would assume the lake would have to go atleast another 3 ft down. In its current state most of the channels and some of the coves and bays would be just muck once the ice melts. Remove 3 more feet and you will be able to walk across the lake in most parts(if you didnt sink in mud) I dont know what the answer is here, but its ugly either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiek2000 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 That "lake" is almost worthless as it is. Love dragging the outboard through the mud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdk 4219 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Few things: The 10tv video report linked in the OP is dumb. What the reporter is standing in front of and referring to as the dam is in reality the hydraulic spillway just east of Pizza Cottage on 79. The spillway itself is intact and perfectly fine, it is simply located within the 4 mile long earthen dam (built into it), which is what is actually failing. The earthen dam itself stretches effectively from the Liebs Island boat ramp at Millersport east around to the North Bank boat ramp off 79. All other shores of the Lake are naturally higher than water level, or actually slope down to the lake. If you look closely when you drive down 79, nearly all of the homes are built into a slope about a 1.5 stories tall - that slope is the dam itself. THAT is what is deteriorating, very slowly buckling and pushing back against the pressure of the lake. In a multitude of places there is significant seepage of lakewater through the slope, which means that the dam is slowly becoming less dirt and more mud, less solid and more goo. Goo obviously doesn't make good dam material, and the potential for an acute mudslide-type rupture is what is being warned against. My grandparents live on the earthen dam (between the Yacht Club and the boat ramp), in a home my grandpa gutted and completely remodeled in the 80s. My grandpa also happens to be the zoning inspector for the village of buckeye lake, so I've been hearing bits and pieces about the issue for months. He deals with issuing permits for what can and cannot be built within the village, including on the lakefront and in the dam. The situation really is crazy, and it will be very interesting to hear what occurs. For those that aren't aware though, all the homes built into North bank have a sidewalk that runs in front of them between the house and the water, my grandpas included. The state actually owns the land between the each house and the lake itself, which varies between 8 and 20 feet of "easement" as you travel down North Bank. A realistic scenario would be to drain the lake (or at least keep the level low) and make repairs to the steel wall that reinforces the lake against the water. It would be a messy process and would interfere with many many docks, decks, flowerbeds, and sidewalks, but oh well I suppose. This picture shows the area that makes up the dam: http://cmsimg.newarkadvocate.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=BF&Date=20120914&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=209140301&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&New-structure-planned-replace-decaying-Buckeye-Lake-dam Its from this article, from 2012... http://www.newarkadvocate.com/article/20120914/NEWS01/209140301/ You should probably read the 128 page novel with pictures that the army corp of engineers has written about the current state of the 177 year old dam. Rest assured that the least that will happen is more than likely a lengthy draining and repair of the earthen dam. They seem to be pointing most of the damage to the residential structures, trees, drains from houses, cantilever docks and so on. After a warning like this from these engineers, it would seem highly unlikely that the puddle won't be drained for a length of time to, at the least address all of these issues, especially after levy and dam failures in New Orleans. This report does say that one of the remedies to stop loss of life would be to relocate all downstream risks, But that would be costly. IMO it will be drained for a lengthy repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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