Otis Nice Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 I think a few things that can be done that will yield big improvements have already been discussed here. 1. The ROE for Police interacting with civilians should not be the same as Military engaging a hostile enemy. Ruby Ridge, Waco, and countless other examples. Someone noted that "he shouldn't have shot at police" during a no knock raid. Well no knock raids shouldn't even be a thing. I can only speculate what I would do if my door was kicked in in the middle of the night. 2. Remove qualified immunity. There should not be two sets of laws. One for "the state" and one for us poor cattle. Everyone should play by the same sets of rules. If I make an error on my job I am responsible. If a doctor makes an error during an operation they are responsible. Police should be held accountable for their errors as well, especially when it involves life and death. This. 100% this. I still wish there was something I could do about the botched procedure that killed my grandma in 1999 and the one that killed my grandpa in 2011, but that's another discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace1647545504 Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 I agree with Hwilli Yes someone breaks into my house police or no there will be gun fire for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 There is no solution. People are idiots on all sides, there's always a gray area, and there will always be angry herds. The further I live from humans the happier I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeROC Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 The further I live from humans the happier I am. This right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 This right here. 2nd.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Yessir, best part of my voluntary layoff. Month 3 at home and I never see anyone, lol. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Gump 9 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 wanna know the stupidest thing i've heard in my whole life? It's a bunch of grown ass men calling "dismantling" or "de-funding" the police "stupid" because they think lawlessness will instantly set in, as if these organizations didn't have continuity, transition, and coverage plans for just this situation. Like all of a sudden all the police and prison guards are just going to turn the lights off, lock up, and go home. :dumb: There isn't even an agreed definition of what de-fund means right now, so cool your panties, it's not going to suddenly become Beyond the Thunderdome just because people want to take away the money the cops use to buy tanks. Even if they don't call them police officers, I can guarantee you if you call 911 someone will still show up, to do that job. I dunno, based on the chatter out of the conservative media - someone is buying that bullshit line. I mean tucker carlson isn't screaming about it to an empty room. You may think it’s stupid, but we shut down the world because some lousy “coronavirus”. During WWI and WWII, the world economy was still running. We are in an unprecedented time my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furloaf Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 wanna know the stupidest thing i've heard in my whole life? It's a bunch of grown ass men calling "dismantling" or "de-funding" the police "stupid" because they think lawlessness will instantly set in, as if these organizations didn't have continuity, transition, and coverage plans for just this situation. Like all of a sudden all the police and prison guards are just going to turn the lights off, lock up, and go home. :dumb: There isn't even an agreed definition of what de-fund means right now, so cool your panties, it's not going to suddenly become Beyond the Thunderdome just because people want to take away the money the cops use to buy tanks. Even if they don't call them police officers, I can guarantee you if you call 911 someone will still show up, to do that job. I dunno, based on the chatter out of the conservative media - someone is buying that bullshit line. I mean tucker carlson isn't screaming about it to an empty room. Look at what's going on in Seattle in the new Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. You'll have to dig a bit because the mainstream media doesn't seem to be aware of it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 goodluck with this....:lolguy: Capital Hill....demands....? https://medium.com/@seattleblmanon3/the-demands-of-the-collective-black-voices-at-free-capitol-hill-to-the-government-of-seattle-ddaee51d3e47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Look at what's going on in Seattle in the new Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. You'll have to dig a bit because the mainstream media doesn't seem to be aware of it yet. goodluck with this....:lolguy: Capital Hill....demands....? https://medium.com/@seattleblmanon3/the-demands-of-the-collective-black-voices-at-free-capitol-hill-to-the-government-of-seattle-ddaee51d3e47 ^^ not going to end well. this is what happens when weak leadership even gives the time of day to stupid. img[src=/banners/smilies/LOLguy.png] {display:none !important;}img[src=/banners/smilies/LOLguy.png] {display:none !important;} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 goodluck with this....[emoji38]guy: Capital Hill....demands....? https://medium.com/@seattleblmanon3/the-demands-of-the-collective-black-voices-at-free-capitol-hill-to-the-government-of-seattle-ddaee51d3e47At least the comment section is entertaining. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace1647545504 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 next will be san fran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Can someone explain why it is necessary to eliminate the pensions of retired officers??? Oh wait, because they are all evil. If this actually happens anywhere, I really hope the courts step in to prevent it. These people served the public for an entire career. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Can someone explain why it is necessary to eliminate the pensions of retired officers??? Oh wait, because they are all evil. If this actually happens anywhere, I really hope the courts step in to prevent it. These people served the public for an entire career. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Who's proposing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Who's proposing this?It's been in two different cities protest demands that I've seen. One being the list of demands above. I can find the other if necessary, but I'd bet it can quickly be found in the Times, Post, WSJ, etc.... Some instances only call for suspension of benefits during investigation, others want to completely defund pensions. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC K9 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 if people obey the law police leave them alone. 100% not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 goodluck with this....:lolguy: Capital Hill....demands....? https://medium.com/@seattleblmanon3/the-demands-of-the-collective-black-voices-at-free-capitol-hill-to-the-government-of-seattle-ddaee51d3e47 Well, they have some other issues they need to figure out... A co-worker of mine walked around that little area and took video, it's a train wreck. He also confirmed it has a protection racket now as well with other issues. Let them have their experiment I say, let's see if we can come up with some type of real solution to this police problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaronsToy Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 https://facebook.com/events/s/blue-lives-matter-too/2816882538532888/?ti=ia Come join us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Well, they have some other issues they need to figure out... A co-worker of mine walked around that little area and took video, it's a train wreck. He also confirmed it has a protection racket now as well with other issues. Let them have their experiment I say, let's see if we can come up with some type of real solution to this police problem.What is in this area of Seattle? Government buildings, businesses, residences, All of the above? Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 It's been in two different cities protest demands that I've seen. One being the list of demands above. I can find the other if necessary, but I'd bet it can quickly be found in the Times, Post, WSJ, etc.... Some instances only call for suspension of benefits during investigation, others want to completely defund pensions. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Ah. Well that's dumb and will never happen due to contract laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 What is in this area of Seattle? Government buildings, businesses, residences, All of the above? Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk I think all of the above, although I assume residences means apartments/condos. CHAZ organizers claim to be making sure people coming in are residents, apparently checking IDs in some cases. https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/protesters-police-discuss-seattle-autonomous-zone-or-chaz-whats-next/TASTMW7TKJGJDOAHJOJIFBKEYM/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Along with the no knock raids, the red flag laws are dangerous too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 apparently checking IDs in some cases. So since they are independent now they issued their own IDs already? Also where are they getting water, electric, and food to support this independence? Wait till a fire starts and see how independent they want to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Can we start a CR autonomous zone? You have to be able to do a 30 second burnout or run a sub 14 sec 1/4 mile to get in?? Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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