Rod38um Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 California has been a pretty good example of what run away liberalism can do. They have overspent on every liberal agenda issue coming down the pike. They have tried to counter balance this for the last several years by increasing every tax they can get their hands on. Each time their total revenue dropped. So they try raising them again and each time the people respond with: Wealthy people move out of state, business lay off employees, New business find another state, Old business doesn't expand, And Finally, more and more people are forced to ask for a hand out because they cant find a job.Now, out of desperation, they try it again: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/California-hikes-withholding-brn-1337031591.html?x=0&.v=1Oh, but this time, they say they're going to give it back to you...... yeah, right.....For the life of me I cant figure out why liberals prefer overspending to responsible spending.... Crushing debt to a re-assuring surplus.With our current economic woes and the neo-liberals in charge with a tax and spend attitude towards every problem. I have to wonder at what point, if ever, will we see a complete economic breakdown?Argentina had various problems and the worse things got economically, they turned to liberals for the fix. The liberals had the message of the Government would take care of them. Well as everyone knows, you can’t ride on credit forever.... Their overspending and crushing debt led to hyper-inflation (20% per month) and a complete socio-economic collapse. This meant riots, starvation and rampant crime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_economic_crisis_(1999%E2%80%932002)I'm starting to wonder how long till we get there? Can we pull back from the brink with our votes? Are we better off if we collapse and start over or if we slowly dig our way out of this mess?There are so many similarities between Argentina and our current situation that survivors of their crisis are warning us, books are being written as a guide to surviving such a crisis. http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2008/10/thoughts-on-urban-survival-2005.htmlWhat do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Two things. If we're going to spend 170million a day on an occupation, we're going to have to pay for that somehow.If we're going to spend 170million a day, I'd prefer it be on domestic infrastructure, versus foreign nation building.Liberal/conservative- fuckall, I could care less. We got the government we deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 So...what e-mail forward or conservative blog did you copy that out of?And how'd you vote on Issue 1 in Ohio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake1221 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 If its a conservative blog its got to be incorrect. Those things are NEVER right. Liberals kill me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 If it's forwarded in an email, it's got to ge correct. Conservatives kill me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake1221 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Forwarded emails are ALWAYS correct. I mean someone sent it to me so it must be da troof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'03VstarSH Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 If it's forwarded in an email, it's got to ge correct. Conservatives kill me!Forwarded emails are ALWAYS correct. I mean someone sent it to me so it must be da troof.Don't forget to forward to 20 of your friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod38um Posted November 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 (edited) So...what e-mail forward or conservative blog did you copy that out of?And how'd you vote on Issue 1 in Ohio?No blog or email, no copy and paste, just observation and a few articles to relate to it.And I voted no on issue 1...... Although I fully support our veterans, I do not support borrowing for a "want" and issue 1 is nice but its not a need, not when we dont have it.Both questions were irrelevant to the OP ......... an answer to the questions may have been.........http://www.amazon.com/Patriots-Novel-Survival-Coming-Collapse/dp/156975599X/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_bhttp://www.amazon.com/How-Survive-End-World-Know/dp/0452295831/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b Edited November 5, 2009 by Rod38um Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Not to mention the Bush Tax breaks will expire soon yet Nazi Pelosi says it isn't a tax hike. C'mon jump on with the Nazi/Hitler comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Point is this.. Democrat/Republican' date=' Liberal/Conservative, LeftWing/RightWing/ChickenWing... It's all the same, anymore.[/quote']It's not about left or right, it's about right or wrong..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Sure' date=' but in a democracy "right and wrong" is subjective. Majority rules, morals don't apply. [/quote']Yeah, but what I'm referring to is how much our gubment has turned into little more than a popularity contest. Instead of being representative of the people want, they seem to govern by what the party wants, what will make the others in congress approve of me mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Well' date=' the Founding Fathers restricted the government with the Constitution and bestowed upon us the responsibility of overthrowing the government whenever it becomes rogue. It's not their fault America is stocked to the gills with pussies.[/quote']Well stated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Sure' date=' but in a democracy "right and wrong" is subjective. Majority rules, morals don't apply. [/quote'] See this site: http://goooh.com/Learn.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 More fear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 More fear?no, just a site. those that gather the most info from all sides are those that are the best educated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I haz a scared..Nice job' date=' assholes! [b']Change, gotta' love it.Fixed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I haz a scared..BTW' date=' did anyone hear about the Health Insurance Bill passing in the House this weekend? Yep, it's making it's way to the Senate. Hopefully, it won't get is 2/3 needed.. If it does I have to start shopping for a "compliant" insurance plan. You know, one that the government deems appropriate for my family since I'm too fucking stupid to make choices on my own. OR.. I could not get a new plan and then not pay the fine, which will be enforced via the IRS, and then spend some time in jail. Nice job, assholes! Progress, gotta' love it.[/quote']Yup. Gonna be bad if it gets thee 2/3 vote. I'm gonna love paying more for insurance so the scum of the earth can have it for free. Gonna be so awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 *preparing for fine*standing up against the man, I'm not shopping, I'm not changing, I'll stand on principle and face the consequences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod38um Posted November 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 The dems are already talking about what they can accomplish once the health care thing goes thru. They want to encourage preventative health care..... ie: since your health is now public/government business, they want to legislate things like what you eat, how much you weigh and so on. So basically if your fat they want to charge you more if you dont exersise or if you buy a little debbie snack cake or if you smoke...... they want to control your behavior........ Ofcourse this is still all in the "want" stage, but they are sure laying the ground work......... Welcome big brother..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 The dems are already talking about what they can accomplish once the health care thing goes thru. They want to encourage preventative health care..... ie: since your health is now public/government business, they want to legislate things like what you eat, how much you weigh and so on. So basically if your fat they want to charge you more if you dont exersise or if you buy a little debbie snack cake or if you smoke...... they want to control your behavior........ Ofcourse this is still all in the "want" stage, but they are sure laying the ground work......... Welcome big brother.....Yes because we don't already regulate things that are "bad" for you. alcohol, tobacco, gambling, porn, hookers, blow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 We wouldn't need a healthcare plan if we just started taxing the air we all breathe. That'd be a really easy way to get rid of the poor and unhealthy.Gyms and workout facilities would be tax-free zones, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Gyms and workout facilities would be tax-free zones, of course.I actually brought this up in a discussion with some coworkers about all of this. I'm not sure why (not that I know of anyway) they aren't giving tax breaks for things like gym memberships, martial arts and sports programs. It could encourage better health and give a little boost to those businesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Because capitalism and free-market and whatnot.If people really wanted to be in shape, they'd pay for it. The people that do now, are a minority group, freaks of nature that actually want to train their bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Last time I checked it didn't cost money to run around the block. No excuse for being a fat sack of shit. No excuse for taxing folks because the poor are unhealthy."Give Me Your Tired' date=' Your Poor, Your Big Fat Asses …Does poverty make people obese, or is it the other way around?[/b']"http://www.slate.com/id/2229523/pagenum/all/#p2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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