fusion Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Might want to start a new thread on this one, I would like to look into the video camers stuff as well. I don't want to use my SLR for video, else I would have not gotten the 40D, and waited for the 7D. That is a pretty sweet camera fo sho!Yes, yes it is, but it definitely isn't for everyday video use. I'll probably never use it other than the playing around with it I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbctown Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 And it's effects on DoF.For the OP. If you are still here reading our blather and still camera shopping I suggest the website below to do camera comparisons. Very nice database, you can compare models side by side. Tons of reviews. Narrow it down to two or three then go to the store and see which one feels best in your hands.http://www.dpreview.com/Thanks very helpfull.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbctown Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I'm trying to figure out if jbc ever got the answer he was looking for in this thread Not really but some good input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Not really but some good input.Ok, let me answer your original post.1) determine your price range2) determine your needs then wants3) pick out 3-5 cameras4) go to flickr and look at pictures taken with each camera (look at a bunch from different users, you'll see common things amount the pictures)5) buy that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 And it's effects on DoF.For the OP. If you are still here reading our blather and still camera shopping I suggest the website below to do camera comparisons. Very nice database, you can compare models side by side. Tons of reviews. Narrow it down to two or three then go to the store and see which one feels best in your hands.http://www.dpreview.com/Playing with DOF is fun, and interesting. I'd like to get me a 85L! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbctown Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Ok, let me answer your original post.1) determine your price range2) determine your needs then wants3) pick out 3-5 cameras4) go to flickr and look at pictures taken with each camera (look at a bunch from different users, you'll see common things amount the pictures)5) buy that oneWill do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Going to flickr isn't going to tell you anything about the camera. DP Review usually has comparisons that are at least somewhat standardized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Going to flickr isn't going to tell you anything about the camera. DP Review usually has comparisons that are at least somewhat standardized. Standardized comparisons sre much better to check out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I don't disagree with you guys... BUTflickr will give the "average man" test AFTER he picks some cameras... "what do the average peoples' pictures look like?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 "what do the average peoples' pictures look like?"The same no matter the camera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I don't disagree with you guys... BUTflickr will give the "average man" test AFTER he picks some cameras... "what do the average peoples' pictures look like?"I don't think the average person's pics are going to look much, if any different from one camera to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 The same no matter the camera?I don't think the average person's pics are going to look much, if any different from one camera to another.I agree... but when making buying decisions consumers typically think about "what does everyone else do"... most people are just looking for, what we call, "the warm hug" that they are making the right decision.Seeing that the pictures from X camera look good would be his final pat on the back that he's made a good decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I agree... but when making buying decisions consumers typically think about "what does everyone else do"... most people are just looking for, what we call, "the warm hug" that they are making the right decision.Seeing that the pictures from X camera look good would be his final pat on the back that he's made a good decision.I think amateur users opinions on the camera would be more useful than their pictures. Bad photog with top notch equipment < good photog with mediocre equipment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterst Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 if you are looking to make a jump to a bit nice camera, but don't have the knowledge of SLR. check out the Canon G-10. a GREAT camera. It's like a Point and shoot on steroids. Has a lot of manual adjustments to help you learn the SLR ropes. VERY versatile camera. And it's still a Point a shoot. And it's not as $$$$ as a SLR. Great camera to move up to. From a Lurker. Check it out. And if you look up Midwest Camera Exchange in Columbus, O. They were running a great sale on this too. FYI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 if you are looking to make a jump to a bit nice camera, but don't have the knowledge of SLR. check out the Canon G-10. a GREAT camera. It's like a Point and shoot on steroids. Has a lot of manual adjustments to help you learn the SLR ropes. VERY versatile camera. And it's still a Point a shoot. And it's not as $$$$ as a SLR. Great camera to move up to. From a Lurker. Check it out. And if you look up Midwest Camera Exchange in Columbus, O. They were running a great sale on this too. FYIHow are their prices compared to Cord? I'd prefer to shop locally, but not a cord's prices. Although I DID buy my 40D from them, since I didn't want to wait for it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 G10 is a good camera, but something like one of the Panasonic Lumix's is probably going to be better. Olympus also makes a great model or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmuckGirl Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Understand Exposure by Bryan Peterson. One of the best books you can pick up when new to photography.Thanks for the book recommendation. I've had someone explain the basics of aperture and shutter speed but i think I need to read about the basics in order for it to really sink in... then I imagine my new toy will start to be more enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thanks for the book recommendation. I've had someone explain the basics of aperture and shutter speed but i think I need to read about the basics in order for it to really sink in... then I imagine my new toy will start to be more enjoyable.If anybody needs help, I teach photography now through Cord. PM's are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 If anybody needs help, I teach photography now through Cord. PM's are fine.Could use some help. Can't afford classes right now. Will keep it in mind though. What location of Cord do you teach out of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsuMj Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 good info in here... I'm going to be trying to pick up a camera in december for $400-$600. I understand how to work with the manual settings, I used a canon FTb and Canon Pellix growing up, then switched over to a crappy digital Kodak just so that I didn't have to spend money on film in college. I think eventually, I'll try to spend some good money on a camera, but for now I'm trying to work with the $400-$600 I'm gonna start researching dslr cams, but if anyone has a specific suggestion, that would be stellar :D Also, I think I'd like to get those two old Canons cleaned and fixed up. If I remember right, one of them was only taking half a picture, but I can't remember which. Best place to do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 good info in here... I'm going to be trying to pick up a camera in december for $400-$600. I understand how to work with the manual settings, I used a canon FTb and Canon Pellix growing up, then switched over to a crappy digital Kodak just so that I didn't have to spend money on film in college. I think eventually, I'll try to spend some good money on a camera, but for now I'm trying to work with the $400-$600 I'm gonna start researching dslr cams, but if anyone has a specific suggestion, that would be stellar :D Also, I think I'd like to get those two old Canons cleaned and fixed up. If I remember right, one of them was only taking half a picture, but I can't remember which. Best place to do this?With the old slr's, there is a local guy named Ben Arnold who does that out of his Clintonville home. There is also Camtronics in Gahana. The Canon XS, Sony A230, and the Nikon D3000 would be your price point options. Again, www.dpreview.com is the best unbiased source for information. Happy to discuss anyting with you too. Catch me on the Aprilia if we do one of those lunch out things again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsuMj Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Thanks RFM, I found his info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 didnt know about this thread. Good info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildit Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Anyone still use 35mm? I have my dad's old Canon F1n Lake Placid Commemorative with many different lenses and nice case for $500.http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/messageboard/canonf1nmsg/index.php?pageNum=5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 I still have my 3 Nikon 6006 film cameras. I used to load one with color film, and the other with black and white. The third 6006 is for parts, since the latch on the film door broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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