Casper Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 http://www.ronpaul2008.com/I'll tell you what, I'm impressed by this guy. It's been awhile since I've though, "wow, he'd make a good president". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8I've been a huge Libertarian supporter since before I could vote. Ron Paul ran as the Libertarian candidate in 1988, and he still has the same views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomez Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I'm working at the Ron Paul booth at the Geauga County fair this weekend, on Saturday from 5PM to 10PM ... if anyone is around, stop in and say hi, I will give you some literature, you can get a cheap Ron Paul t-shirt if you'd like, maybe a bumper sticker, etc. Satan if you haven't already done so, checkout the local Meetup group and check into getting involved, Ron can use all of the foot soldiers he can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v65rider Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I have been a conservative my whole life and usually vote republican since they usually follow along the same lines that I do.My question for you is do you think that someone outside the two main parties has a chance of winning office?Or is it more likely that they will take votes away from the other parties to make it a one sided election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomez Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I have been a conservative my whole life and usually vote republican since they usually follow along the same lines that I do.My question for you is do you think that someone outside the two main parties has a chance of winning office?Or is it more likely that they will take votes away from the other parties to make it a one sided election?3rd parties aren't raising the funds necessary to compete nationally, that's why Ron Paul is a "Republican" and not a libertarian independant... it helps you get into the debates, can help you raise money, and helps you get noticed by those who would immediately dismiss any third party candidate as not having a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 3rd parties aren't raising the funds necessary to compete nationally, that's why Ron Paul is a "Republican" and not a libertarian independant... it helps you get into the debates, can help you raise money, and helps you get noticed by those who would immediately dismiss any third party candidate as not having a chance.I thought that at first until he said that if he didn't get the republican nomination he wouldn't run independently. Pissed me off a little actually.He's gained more than enough support to run against both parties as an independent if he doesn't get the nod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud and Low Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Dude makes sense,right. That's why I fear he falls on deaf ears in the public arena.Unfortunately "conservative" has been co-opted by the religious wrong. This is true, real do able conservatism. And that's something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v65rider Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I usually try to keep up with the issues, but did not realize Mr. Paul is running on the Republican ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomez Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I thought that at first until he said that if he didn't get the republican nomination he wouldn't run independently. Pissed me off a little actually.He's gained more than enough support to run against both parties as an independent if he doesn't get the nod.I don't think he wants to put a Democrat in the White House - that's my opinion on his reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomez Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I usually try to keep up with the issues, but did not realize Mr. Paul is running on the Republican ticket.He runs as a Republican for his House seat as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I don't think he wants to put a Democrat in the White House - that's my opinion on his reasoning.Wouldn't be any worse than another republican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomez Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Wouldn't be any worse than another republican.that would depend on which ones we are talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 that would depend on which ones we are talking about I actually think voting for any party nominated democrat or republican is a bad idea. Most of those party members and the people who vote for them are nothing but sheep... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB12Ss Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I've met lots of Dems turned Republican, but never a Rep turned Democrat... I've always found that interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v65rider Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 That is because Repubs don't usually loose there values and Dems don't usually have values to loose:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud and Low Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I think it's a type of social climbing. Republicans have recently "sold" their party as that of the upper crust. Top of the food chain. Some sort of smug arrogance goes along with being a Republican now. My opinion is that the dems turned republicans are just going where the crowd goes. That or they want gay sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v65rider Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I don't think its and arrogance thing I just think most people are scared to death of Hillary becoming president, and she seems to be at the top of the Dem heap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud and Low Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 That could be. Although I don't think the damage would be as great after two Clintons as the damage after two Bushes. Either way, Hillary a bad choice, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyen Soljax Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 ron paul is the only guy actually talking sense about military operations. he wants to go back to isolationist views that republicans are known to default back to when the US gets too muddled into the rest of the world. i know ill be voting in the rep. primary because hes the only candidate i want to see in office. i did vote democrat in the last election, but i wouldnt say ive changed my party, really it has nothing to do with party. it has to do with what matters to me.even if he is a strong candidate, hes not stupid enough to run independent if he doesnt get the rep. bid. all you have to do is look at history to see that running independent is a waste unless you have someone you really dont want to see in office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted August 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 http://www.speculativebubble.com/images/republican-comparison.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleCock Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 i did vote democrat in the last election, but i wouldnt say ive changed my party, really it has nothing to do with party. it has to do with what matters to me. So if it has nothing to do with the party, why didn't you list NAMES? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) i did vote democrat in the last election, but i wouldnt say ive changed my party, really it has nothing to do with party. it has to do with what matters to me.If has nothing to do with party, why do you subscribe yourself to one to begin with? Edited August 15, 2011 by Casper fixed quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyen Soljax Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 If has nothing to do with party, why do you subscribe yourself to one to begin with?ok, so i voted for the democratic candidate in the last election, how about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleaner Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 too bad he won't win. The smartest guy in the room never wins in this country. I'm not a republican but I agree with most of the stuff he says. And more importantly I think he actually believes what he's saying and not just saying what someone told him to say (a la George Bush). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorvictor Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Two words.....FRED THOMPSON. Yes I said it. Im PRO kicking the ass off of the dictators of this world and giving the people, or the "sheeple" the right to do the same thing we take for granted and vote in a free election. Burying your head in the sand over islamic fundamentalists and dictators who support them is the same reason that we had a bitch of a time kicking Hitlers ass. If you want to wait around until they cover the earth like the nazis didthen try to stomp them out it will be too late because nazis dont blend into your neighborhood like a plain old muslim fundamentalist does until he straps a bomb to his son and sends him over to play catch with YOUR son.As for the bushies, 17 ignored UN resolutions for Sadam to allow inspectors to look at how much mustard gas he had left over after he killed thousands of kurds who were his own people! By the way, if George Bush Jr wanted to kill everybody in New Orleans he could have with the weapons that Sadam used on HIS own people BUT SADAM HAD ALREADY USED THEM ON HIS OWN PEOPLE. Democrats are screaming that Bush killed them by building inadequate levys even before he was governor of TEXAS... Yet you overlook the actual deliberate massacre of a group of people in Iraq by a dictator that gives the world the finger everytime we ask him to check his stash...I dont want to hear another democrat say anything about how good the UNis and then get pissed off when we actually follow its empty threats up with an ass kicking. Just a little two faced if you ask me .sorry about the ravings of a pissed off individual ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB12Ss Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Two words.....FRED THOMPSON. Yes I said it. Im PRO kicking the ass off of the dictators of this world and giving the people, or the "sheeple" the right to do the same thing we take for granted and vote in a free election. Burying your head in the sand over islamic fundamentalists and dictators who support them is the same reason that we had a bitch of a time kicking Hitlers ass. If you want to wait around until they cover the earth like the nazis didthen try to stomp them out it will be too late because nazis dont blend into your neighborhood like a plain old muslim fundamentalist does until he straps a bomb to his son and sends him over to play catch with YOUR son.As for the bushies, 17 ignored UN resolutions for Sadam to allow inspectors to look at how much mustard gas he had left over after he killed thousands of kurds who were his own people! By the way, if George Bush Jr wanted to kill everybody in New Orleans he could have with the weapons that Sadam used on HIS own people BUT SADAM HAD ALREADY USED THEM ON HIS OWN PEOPLE. Democrats are screaming that Bush killed them by building inadequate levys even before he was governor of TEXAS... Yet you overlook the actual deliberate massacre of a group of people in Iraq by a dictator that gives the world the finger everytime we ask him to check his stash...I dont want to hear another democrat say anything about how good the UNis and then get pissed off when we actually follow its empty threats up with an ass kicking. Just a little two faced if you ask me .sorry about the ravings of a pissed off individual .........I agree with this statement... I hate how everyone screams "No WMD's" as the end all, be all argument... Saddam was saying he had them... then when inspectors came he denied having them... and the Blix inspections were pathetic... "no, you cannot enter today, come back next week..." ... ' ok.' Give me a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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