Likwid Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Nobody is stating otherwise.The argument here is whether armed citizens would have the wherewithal to properly handle the attack.Well that's not how the conversation was earlier, earlier it seemed as if SCJ was defending policy not to allow firearms, rather than even admitting the people could have possibly stopped it. He hasn't answered the question on his stance.Really? How do you get your groceries? I don't know any grocery stores that allow guns inside.Really? I don't know of a grocery store that DOESN'T allow.... Giant Eagle, Marc's, Kroger, etc etc. But it DOES depend on location, for non-corporate type places (like Marc's) I believe individual managers can set policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondajt Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Kroger, Wal-Mart. Don't need to go anywhere else. Kroger's doesn't allow: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80071&highlight=krogerAnd I believe Walmart doesn't allow guns, mostly because of a screwed up ohio law about alcohol and guns? (Obviously it's screwed up since they also sell guns, lol.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Kroger's doesn't allow: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80071&highlight=krogerAnd I believe Walmart doesn't allow guns, mostly because of a screwed up ohio law about alcohol and guns? (Obviously it's screwed up since they also sell guns, lol.)Uhmm, you're WAY off on Walmart... they 100% allow carry, open and concealedAlso, the thing you posted for Kroger is 6 years old... trust me brotha, things have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Well that's not how the conversation was earlier, earlier it seemed as if SCJ was defending policy not to allow firearms, rather than even admitting the people could have possibly stopped it. He hasn't answered the question on his stance.I think SCJ has a different viewpoint than we do base on his duties on OSU campus. He might know more about it's students and staff than you or I do. I don't think he's saying he's 100% opposed to the idea but that it is uncertain of what the outcome would have been even if someone near the accident was armed.Just my opinion like anyone else's that made a post here today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondajt Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Uhmm, you're WAY off on Walmart... they 100% allow carry, open and concealedI didn't know. Wasn't trying to argue, just commenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Sorry, but I call bullshit. Was this on the news? Its rare that a gun goes bang from dropping it.Because if it doesn't come from the media, it can't be true? :roll:Like I said, true story. They heard a loud ass bang and nobody knew what it was. Come to find out some dude managed to drop his piece and hit some guy in the leg or foot. (I can't remember)And now I'm gonna quote fuck ya!Thats the problem. You cant trust the media in this countryThe media loves to sensationalizeDon't buy in to the media hype people. Do your research.Well that's not how the conversation was earlier, earlier it seemed as if SCJ was defending policy not to allow firearms, rather than even admitting the people could have possibly stopped it. He hasn't answered the question on his stance.I was merely responding to the grocery store issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timotheus Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Nobody is stating otherwise.The argument here is whether armed citizens would have the wherewithal to properly handle the attack. an armed citizen would have more wherewithal than an unarmed citizen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 My mom was at Meijer two weeks ago and some jackass dropped his CC piece on the floor and it shot some dude in the foot.TRUE STORYBecause if it doesn't come from the media, it can't be true? :roll:Like I said, true story. They heard a loud ass bang and nobody knew what it was. Come to find out some dude managed to drop his piece and hit some guy in the leg or foot. (I can't remember)And now I'm gonna quote fuck ya!Bubby, if that shit happened in Columbus or the surrounding area, it would have been a fucking media circus. It would have been on every news channel, it would be front page of every newspaper. It wouldnt just be known to you and your mom. Just to satisfy my curiosity, I Googled concealed carry shooting at Meijer, shot in foot at Meijer, etc. NOTHING.So again, I call bullshit. Now I'll fuck you. I'm calling you out. Prove it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Pretty sure Wal-Mart policy is to mimic the laws of the state that particular store is in. I do believe they also leave the final decision to the store manager' date=' but don't quote me.[/quote']The state law piece sounds right, manager discretion? HA! Not at Wal-Mart.NOTHING is manager discretion at Wal-Mart. The manager certainly could have you kicked out for open carrying or something, but if you contact the district manager they'll fix the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 an armed citizen would have more wherewithal than an unarmed citizenhow so?plenty of morons can pass a ccw test and plenty of smart people don't try.Not every gun owner has the ability to handle a gun wielding aggressor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 how so?plenty of morons can pass a ccw test and plenty of smart people don't try.Not every gun owner has the ability to handle a gun wielding aggressor.I'm waiting........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Bubby, if that shit happened in Columbus or the surrounding area, it would have been a fucking media circus. It would have been on every news channel, it would be front page of every newspaper. It wouldnt just be known to you and your mom. Just to satisfy my curiosity, I Googled concealed carry shooting at Meijer, shot in foot at Meijer, etc. NOTHING.So again, I call bullshit. Now I'll fuck you. I'm calling you out. Prove it happened.I can't. But if the Gahanna Police and Meijer management didn't report it to the local media, it's possible that they kept it quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I can't. But if the Gahanna Police and Meijer management didn't report it to the local media, it's possible that they kept it quiet.Oh, ok. I'm sure that everyone in the store kept quiet about a shooting in a neighborhood like Gahanna......and I'm also sure that the media doesnt read any police reports or listen to scanners or anything like that. Its totally plausible that an accidental shooting in a big box store was completely swept under the rug....by all the employees, customers, media and police. uh huh. riiiight.BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondajt Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 (edited) Can you guys take that to private message's? No one cares.Anyways....Anyone know the people who died or got injured? Edited March 9, 2010 by Hondajt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Oh, you caught me Max, I'm totally making this up to make myself look sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Oh, you caught me Max, I'm totally making this up to make myself look sweet.So it appears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Kroger's doesn't allow: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80071&highlight=krogerAnd I believe Walmart doesn't allow guns, mostly because of a screwed up ohio law about alcohol and guns? (Obviously it's screwed up since they also sell guns, lol.)No sign posted in a conspicuous location=CC. Uhmm, you're WAY off on Walmart... they 100% allow carry, open and concealedAlso, the thing you posted for Kroger is 6 years old... trust me brotha, things have changed.What he said.Pretty sure Wal-Mart policy is to mimic the laws of the state that particular store is in. I do believe they also leave the final decision to the store manager' date=' but don't quote me.[/quote']Yep. Wal-Mart abides by the laws of the state they are located in. CC is legal in Ohio therefore CC in legal in a Wal-Mart in Ohio.Sure' date=' but if the manager tells you to GTFO you need to GTFO.. regardless of company policy. That's what I was trying to say.[/quote']QFT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyen Soljax Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 god damn. first the shooting on an army base, and now at OSU...im thinking im safer in iraq than i am at home. when i sleep i have a M240B machine gun, M4 Carbine, and an M9 beretta with ammo closeby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timotheus Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 how so?plenty of morons can pass a ccw test and plenty of smart people don't try.Not every gun owner has the ability to handle a gun wielding aggressor. lol.....even a moron with a gun would be better equiped to handle a gun wielding aggressor than someone who was completely unarmed.....your just pretending to be stupid, right?.....right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Fixed it for you. Thanks IP. lol.....even a moron with a gun would be better equiped to handle a gun wielding aggressor than someone who was completely unarmed.....your just pretending to be stupid' date=' right?.....right?[/quote'] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 lol.....even a moron with a gun would be better equiped to handle a gun wielding aggressor than someone who was completely unarmed.....your just pretending to be stupid, right?.....right?That's bullshit.Remember that shooting in the bar in toledo?5 gunmen, at least 20 shots, NO injuries.Having a gun in your pocket or on your hip doesn't mean you are equipped to use it effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timotheus Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Hey' date=' at least you only misspelled two words in that insult... right?.....right? [/quote'] i only see one....help me out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timotheus Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 i think ill ride my bike to work.....bye guys, it was a stimulating debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 (edited) That's bullshit.Remember that shooting in the bar in toledo?5 gunmen, at least 20 shots, NO injuries.Having a gun in your pocket or on your hip doesn't mean you are equipped to use it effectively.How many of them were CHL holders? I don't remember.Side note:Maybe we need to outlaw guns and gun manufacturers. That would alleviate all the gun violence problems. Edited March 9, 2010 by chevysoldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Side note:Maybe we need to outlaw guns and gun manufacturers. That would alleviate all the gun violence problems. Yup! And then the only people that will have guns are the criminals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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