hollywood3586 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 http://www.fox8.com/news/wjw-news-speeding-ticket-ruling-officer-estimate,0,2166687.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Wow. You're right, that IS bullshit.Right from the Ohio Supreme Court: http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/PIO/summaries/2010/0602/091069.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy1011 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 :wtf: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 (edited) what horseshit. guess they can just chuck all the radar guns and air planes now. you aught to start your own company that independently certifies drivers to verify visually that they are not driving too fast without having to look at that pesky speedometer. Edited June 2, 2010 by smashweights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywood3586 Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 not sure but i have a feeling all the D-bag cops out there are going to have a feild day with this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 phew thank god I've don't have any of my sports cars...I couldn't tell you how many times someone has said "wow that looks fast just sitting there" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 phew thank god I've don't have any of my sports cars...I couldn't tell you how many times someone has said "wow that looks fast just sitting there" and now that's enough to convict you. better park in a garage with no windows just to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Oh wow. That's fucking stupid. This needs some public attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ohioians-Against-Unaided-Traffic-Violations/122013861167012Here, I made a Facebook page for it. There's a Facebook page for everything. Might as well be one for this. Maybe if it gets enough attention, someone will pay attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ohioians-Against-Unaided-Traffic-Violations/122013861167012Here, I made a Facebook page for it. There's a Facebook page for everything. Might as well be one for this. Maybe if it gets enough attention, someone will pay attention.i'll like that. it's the least i can do (literally). glad i could make society better with a click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 this shit isnt new. this has been around for a long time.cops are trained and certified for this.i dont have a problem with it. only the dbag cops will abuse it. and those are the kind of cops that will find something to ticket you on no matter what, whether it be by this, or something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotaman88210 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Greeeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 I have a HUGE problem with this, only because in this application it is ripe for abuse with no independent recourse. Not that ANY police officer has ever lied under oath to get a petty minor misdemeanor offense conviction This puts the burden on the defense to destroy the officers credibility -- if that's what they want, I'm sure there are some rich bastards out there with more money than brains that'll be able to knock the 'holier than thou' attitude of one of these abusive cops down a peg or two. A few court demonstrations, a background check, and/or maybe even a private eye following an officer for a day or two should be enough to show a lack of credibility.I'm not saying this can't be defeated, I'm just saying it'll take an awful lot of legwork to get it done -- so now you're at a standoff to see who really wants it more... this isn't justice, this is how the gov't is going to start making money without printing it or taxing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 I have a HUGE problem with this, only because in this application it is ripe for abuse with no independent recourse. Not that ANY police officer has ever lied under oath to get a petty minor misdemeanor offense conviction This puts the burden on the defense to destroy the officers credibility -- if that's what they want, I'm sure there are some rich bastards out there with more money than brains that'll be able to knock the 'holier than thou' attitude of one of these abusive cops down a peg or two. A few court demonstrations, a background check, and/or maybe even a private eye following an officer for a day or two should be enough to show a lack of credibility.I'm not saying this can't be defeated, I'm just saying it'll take an awful lot of legwork to get it done -- so now you're at a standoff to see who really wants it more... this isn't justice, this is how the gov't is going to start making money without printing it or taxing it.+1, just makes random driving taxes easier to collect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeSlice Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 This just in!!! "If a citizen can visually estimate a police officer is overweight, the squad car will be taken away from their fat ass and they will be forced to walk or run everywhere- No scale will be needed to verify the citizens estimates" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 This just in!!! "If a citizen can visually estimate a police officer is overweight, the squad car will be taken away from their fat ass and they will be forced to walk or run everywhere- No scale will be needed to verify the citizens estimates"fail.being overweight isnt a law, but obeying the speedlimit is.atleast come up with something clever next time. i lost a few IQ points reading your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balaormiga Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ohioians-Against-Unaided-Traffic-Violations/122013861167012Here, I made a Facebook page for it. There's a Facebook page for everything. Might as well be one for this. Maybe if it gets enough attention, someone will pay attention.LOL I posted to it.. let's get this rolling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 (edited) fail.being overweight isnt a law, but obeying the speedlimit is.atleast come up with something clever next time. i lost a few IQ points reading your post.Actually it's NOT a fail. What he said has a point. Most that become officers have to pass a fitness test. 1.5 mile run, sit-ups, push-ups which normally go by the Cooper fitness test standards. There, I helped you gain your IQ points that seem to be sitting in your head loosely. Edited June 2, 2010 by NinjaNick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 That is pretty pathetic... As an additional FYI, This now gives them probable cause to pull you over to try and find something else to ticket you for. Example. Youre driving 25mph home from the barOfficer guestimates for his records youre driving 35 just to pull you overOfficer now tries to get you for DUI, or at a minimum, seatbelt violation since seatbelts are secondary and they cant pull you over for it. Now you get a DUI or some other violation.Before this, the officer had to have probable cause, aka radar you for speeding, swerving (Camera would validate swerving) etc. But now, their visual estimation is now good enough for them to stop you. Complete BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samizzle Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 I'm not okay with this at all.I'll join the FB group and invite all of my friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessecwalters Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 awesome. But what kind of ticket will they give you exactly? I know theres like certain degrees of speeding tickets. What kind will this be? will it put points on your license/insurance? or just a pay-up ticket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 awesome. But what kind of ticket will they give you exactly? I know theres like certain degrees of speeding tickets. What kind will this be? will it put points on your license/insurance? or just a pay-up ticket?It doesnt matter. Its a ticket you will have to pay and will go on your record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 That is pretty pathetic... As an additional FYI, This now gives them probable cause to pull you over to try and find something else to ticket you for. Example. Youre driving 25mph home from the barOfficer guestimates for his records youre driving 35 just to pull you overOfficer now tries to get you for DUI, or at a minimum, seatbelt violation since seatbelts are secondary and they cant pull you over for it. Now you get a DUI or some other violation.Before this, the officer had to have probable cause, aka radar you for speeding, swerving (Camera would validate swerving) etc. But now, their visual estimation is now good enough for them to stop you. Complete BS.but our nation will fight to the bitter end if they check to see if you're a citizen while checking your seatbelt, BAC, text message history, proof of insurance, registration, and having the drug dog sniff around without probable cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangBruhY Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Maybe they should also make a law for people driving slowly in the left lane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMMW Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 They are just trying to protect us. Be glad there's thousands of tickets written to "slow us down"...p.s. And gun control keeps us safe from criminals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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