Gump Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Just bought this wood burner. http://www.tractorsupply.com/united-states-stove-co-1557m-hotblast-furnace-5095270I know nothing about wood burners in a house. Tips on using them would be great. Kinda concerned about piping it into the chimney and whether it should be lined or not. It's going in the basement. I'm getting rid of the heating oil furnace and oil tank if anyone is interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfrpalm Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I have a wood burner ( not a furnace ) and I really like it. It's pretty messy but if you have it in your basement it shouldn't be bad. I don't think you need to line your chimney but make sure it is sealed up where the burner vents in to the chimney. good luck and stay warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buxnut Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 My neighbor has this exact model. He has his in his garage. he likes it but he is always busting his hump cutting, splittlng and stacking wood year round. I did that as a kid for my parents and always told myself I wouldnt do it again when I had my own house. I replaced a direct vent propane drain (AKA gas log set) with a pellet burner insert 2 years ago and love it. dump a bag of pellets in in the morning and that usually lats all day. heats the house and its easy to maintain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony07R6 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I replaced a direct vent propane drain (AKA gas log set) with a pellet burner insert 2 years ago and love it. dump a bag of pellets in in the morning and that usually lats all day. heats the house and its easy to maintain.How did you go about doing this? I have a direct vent built-in gas fireplace in my family room that I never use because its a waste of gas. I thought in order to have a real burner in there, you had to have an actual chimney. Is that not the case with a pellet burner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buxnut Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Pellet stoves can be direct vented as well. I used one 3 foot section of pipe straight out the back with an end cap that directs the fumes out and down at about 45 degrees. as long as you dont have any combustables within 30 inches (I think thats the minimum) mine is about 36 inches from the outlet to the ground, you should be fine. find a local pellet stove dealer in your area (I would avoid the TSCs, Home Depots, etc) and ask as many questions as you can. I researched and visited several dealers in columbus before making my final descision. www.hearth.com has a forum section dedicated to pellet burners, but as with any online forum, there are tons of people that like to help and a few asshats as well. your mileage may vary.Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony07R6 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Thanks, I will definitely look into all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I know a guy that has an outdoor wood burner. His is also set up to heat the water as well. If you are able, I'd consider putting it outside. No need to run much of a chimney and all the ash/dirt will stay away from the house. I don't know anything about them, just thought I'd throw that out to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron505 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I've got the same furnace as you Gump, but I haven't been a ble to afford the triple-wall pipe i need to hook it up yet. I do not have an existing fireplace, so i'm of no help there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beegreenstrings Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Well I have both. I have a outdoor boiler unit and a indoor woodburner. I burn indoors until it is really cold out and then I light the outdoor burner. It's just the idea when the outdoor burner is lit... It is lit. It's a pain to let it go out and try and re-light it and get the water hot again.I love my indoor burner. I did a new chimney with triple wall pipe when I put mine in.If I was you and I was going to breech a chimney to install a woodburner I would call a specialist and have them look at your chimney. You need to be sure your chimney can take it. If there are cracks in the mortar and the brick or stone is bad or has cracked you could be in danger of a fire... once the creisot(sp) builds up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondLiar Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I have one of those in an outbuilding and a smaller wood stove in the house.Be sure your chimney is up to snuff. Have it checked by a pro and clean it once a year. Burning green (unseasoned) wood produces a lot of creosote and you waste a lot of heat burning off the moisture. Get a stovepipe thermometer and put it on the pipe about a foot from where it enters the chimney. Be sure you keep the blower fans running or you'll overheat the outside shell. I had a power failure and it got hot enough to char the paint. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) my chimney runs from the basement straight up thru the center of the house. I'm going to have to chuck out some money for a stainless steel flexible "liner" that i hopefully can do myself. Insurance companies don't like normal chimneys. Apparently all that gunk build up thne can burn out the mortar and cause a house fire. Which i don't understand how chimneys worked well 50 years ago.If i could pipe it correctly i'd just put it in my mud room and pipe it out the side of the house but tapping into the cold air return and existing duct work would be a bitch. Easy if i didn't mind pipes running across a wall.Below is a link to a liner type. There's zillions of them. i need to talk to a pro to figure out what's the best "affordable" choice.http://www.efireplacestore.com/fsd-mstdcs6-25.html?productid=fsd-mstdcs6-25&channelid=LSCAS Edited November 9, 2010 by Gump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Ok...screw the wood burning furnace idea. I'm taking it back. It would be around $2000 with the cost of the furnace and by the time i do the chimney myself and have sheet metal work done THAN i have to drag wood around and still rely on space heaters if I leave town.Opting for a heat pump. A/C and heat. Done. Might be about twice the money but screw it. Any HVAC guys on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Do you have the option to put it outside? I'd bet it would be cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 ? Not sure how to do that? I think those heat water and cost about $10,000 to install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carwhore Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 My next house im going to have custom built and im going to do the outside and inside burner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Ok...screw the wood burning furnace idea. I'm taking it back. It would be around $2000 with the cost of the furnace and by the time i do the chimney myself and have sheet metal work done THAN i have to drag wood around and still rely on space heaters if I leave town.Opting for a heat pump. A/C and heat. Done. Might be about twice the money but screw it. Any HVAC guys on here?Good move. Call That Dude.....oh, wait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondLiar Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Yeah, it can be a real pain in the ass to heat with wood. But nothing beats the heat you get from it in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carwhore Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Good move. Call That Dude.....oh, wait.hahah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 So, this never happened Gump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted October 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 The heat pump did. I did buy a used wood burner for the future garage.Make sure it's UL listed if you get one, or your insurance company will freak out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCBS Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Burning wood ain't all that bad. I have the 1557m, and while I think its a POS, it does heat the house. Ceramic lined block chimney. It would be a much better furnace with a spring dampener rather than the slide setup. Also, the upper baffle channels smoke right out the door when trying to feed it. Used to have an old Suburban model that came with house, but firebox finally rusted thru. Should have spent the extra money to get a Brunco model. I believe all the new burners have to comply with epa regs, which aren't the best for clean burning. The stove designs are solid, but people like me who grew up with airtight stoves of yore have a hard time operating these new efficient stoves. I'm absolutely sure I have more smoke and creosote with new new stove than I did with the older one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 next summer I'm going to be looking into a pellet stove to put in my basement, I'm already over buying propane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschaf Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Closed loop geothermal here & no regrets. My parents used to heat with wood & I remember it being a huge PIA to cut, split, & carry all the wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCBS Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I used to dislike all the work involved when I was a kid, but now I actually enjoy it. Three hours later with help of a friend and log splitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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