Disclaimer Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Would you? Could you? For $3195... I would, but I need AT LEAST 1000cc for the street. :cool:Cleveland CycleWerks Misfit: the missing link?http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/11/cleveland-cyclewerks-misft-the-missing-link/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 If I rode that you could walk faster than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 In the straights maybe, but you'd be able to pass me in the turns. I don't lean when I walk -- I'd have to slow down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beegreenstrings Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 I dont know? It looks neat? but man? 3195 for 16hp... I can buy a 400ex and it has 35hp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Listen, I think it is cool he wants to get something out there similar to what a cafe racer is, but think about this...Through the years, there have been PLENTY of Chinese machines that incorporate some cool looking features like his upside down forks, "wavey" rotors as he calls them, etc.I'll use pitbikes as an example. There was a cool company that actually went to China and watched over and QCd their product from China. The idea was they offered a CRF50 with upside down forks, bigger front wheel, better hydro brakes front and rear, piggy back rear shock and tall seat and bars with 125cc motor and FMF styled exhaust.Thing was baller and it ran rather well. BUT... Big but, here... the thing fell apart all the time. While the company was always good about standing behind the product (I actually got a free replacement frame and a buddy got a new motor), it was still an issue of things breaking and parts just not as dependable and not near the tolerances of the Japanese counter parts...The thing is that the Chinese are making a lot of things for the Japanese like Kaw's and Suzuki's little ATVs, etc. These are top end Chinese companies and they are still not the quality as seen by the Japanese, but being in the smaller units, they are less to being abused and are not needing the tech as seen on the bigger units...Point is simple. It's going to be VERY tough to convince people to buy a Chinese no name machine without a name brand engine for only $800 (at retail) than a Japanese bike. Not to mention when other smaller bikes are heading this way (Shameless plug for the KTM 125s and 250s...) for maybe $1k more at most. Plus, add the Honda and the association of quality that is related to that brand.It's going to be tough and with the surge of cafe racer bikes being seen lately, it is still not a market that is huge here in the US. Plus, one of the cool things about cafe racers is the fact that you build it and ride it. An accomplishment that is tangible... Not bought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 I think the "hooligan" 250cc motard is the most appealing thus far, but that's just me.still cool of them to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_racing_guy Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 If I was in the market for something that size I would spend $500 more for the Suzuki TU250X and be more confident in making it to my destination. The Chinese are getting better but still have a ways to go before getting anywhere near the quality of the Japanese or European offerings. Harley laughed at Honda in 1969 when they released the CB 750 and by 1982 Harley would have been out of business if Uncle Sam didn't step in and bail them out and put tariffs on import bikes over 700cc's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El capitan Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 you can pick up a hawk for 2k and gain horsepower and reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El capitan Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 ...and mad pussy. i thought that went without saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 I wish them well but it's not a market I would purchase in nor steer someone into.Scooters is where it's at for fun and learning how to ride the easy way plus they are a blast and a 250 scooter would be just as fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted December 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 By the numbers: 250cc road bikes http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/12/by-the-numbers-250cc-road-bikes/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Listen, I think it is cool he wants to get something out there similar to what a cafe racer is, but think about this...Through the years, there have been PLENTY of Chinese machines that incorporate some cool looking features like his upside down forks, "wavey" rotors as he calls them, etc.I'll use pitbikes as an example. There was a cool company that actually went to China and watched over and QCd their product from China. The idea was they offered a CRF50 with upside down forks, bigger front wheel, better hydro brakes front and rear, piggy back rear shock and tall seat and bars with 125cc motor and FMF styled exhaust.Thing was baller and it ran rather well. BUT... Big but, here... the thing fell apart all the time. While the company was always good about standing behind the product (I actually got a free replacement frame and a buddy got a new motor), it was still an issue of things breaking and parts just not as dependable and not near the tolerances of the Japanese counter parts...The thing is that the Chinese are making a lot of things for the Japanese like Kaw's and Suzuki's little ATVs, etc. These are top end Chinese companies and they are still not the quality as seen by the Japanese, but being in the smaller units, they are less to being abused and are not needing the tech as seen on the bigger units...Point is simple. It's going to be VERY tough to convince people to buy a Chinese no name machine without a name brand engine for only $800 (at retail) than a Japanese bike. Not to mention when other smaller bikes are heading this way (Shameless plug for the KTM 125s and 250s...) for maybe $1k more at most. Plus, add the Honda and the association of quality that is related to that brand.It's going to be tough and with the surge of cafe racer bikes being seen lately, it is still not a market that is huge here in the US. Plus, one of the cool things about cafe racers is the fact that you build it and ride it. An accomplishment that is tangible... Not bought...are you saying that chinese and japanese people are not the same??? all asians are the same bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Cleveland CycleWerks Hooligun: an affordable supermoto - $3600http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2011/02/cleveland-cyclewerks-hooligun-an-affordable-supermoto-2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) I just learned about this company today and I really like the misfit. Been getting into the cafe racer thing lately. And even though it has only 16 HP, does anyone know how heavy it is? Because that could make quite a bit of difference if it weighs less than the other bikes.Edit: Found the answer on the link from the OP and completely passed over the post with the chart lolThe Misfit weighs 80lbs less than a Ninja 250 and, according to Scott, can pull power wheelies in first and second gear.Sounds like a quick bike to me. Would have to test ride one to know. Edited April 24, 2012 by JStump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Horsepower will be more determinative of top speed. With torque and the right gearing, you can make any bike pretty "quick."But for the money, I could get a wrecked ninja 250 of GS500 (no radiator to ugly things up) and have better reliability, and plenty of cash left over to make it cooler... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Horsepower will be more determinative of top speed. With torque and the right gearing, you can make any bike pretty "quick."But for the money, I could get a wrecked ninja 250 of GS500 (no radiator to ugly things up) and have better reliability, and plenty of cash left over to make it cooler...But I want a cafe racer, not a naked ninja lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 for their asking price, you could build a better one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 I would love to build an old Ducati or Triumph, just can't find them anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolWhip Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted April 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 http://jalopnik.com/5904776/is-a-3000-new-motorcycle-worth-ridinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKnwE1FJBFc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStump Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 NoNo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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