redkow97 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Can anyone give me a little guidance here?I have the tank raised and can access the air box, but removing the air box to get to the throttle bodies appears as though it will involve disconnecting all fuel lines and a significant portion of the wiring harness. Neither of those tasks are appealing. I am hoping someone who has done this before knows of a short cut that allows me to remove everything as 2 or 3 relatively intact pieces, rather than disassembling each individual piece as I dig down to the engine. Any advice? Estimate on amount of time I should budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapesmuggler27 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Buy my gsxr, problem solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Can anyone give me a little guidance here?I have the tank raised and can access the air box, but removing the air box to get to the throttle bodies appears as though it will involve disconnecting all fuel lines and a significant portion of the wiring harness. Neither of those tasks are appealing. I am hoping someone who has done this before knows of a short cut that allows me to remove everything as 2 or 3 relatively intact pieces, rather than disassembling each individual piece as I dig down to the engine. Any advice? Estimate on amount of time I should budget?Wish I could help, never got that far down in the RR when I had mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstrosity Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 hmmm... I put a KNN in my 06 but dont remember what all was involved. I think the ecm is on top of the air box isint it? The bike also has a wiring harness on the left hand side of the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC1000rr Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 If its anything like my 07...then you really don't have much choice. You have to take that stuff off to release the lower connectors on the cables. Its really not that hard to do, and I'll be doing it again shortly on Mykills bike. Just remove the tank and put it aside, undo the top connectors and stuff (Label with tape if necessary) and remove the top airbox then lower airbox and put all the screws in a container so you don't lose them. Then you can easily access the throttle bodies. As for removing the TB's...I went the easy route after researching. Get a LONG phillips screwdriver (mines about 2ft long -adv auto $12?) and go in from each side and loosen the TB clamps on all 4 TB's. Then the whole stack comes off and you can put it aside also. Then you have complete access to the cables and routing to replace. Overall, it shouldn't take more then about 2 hours max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Thanks Steve. That is not what I wanted to hear, but it's at least a definitive answer. 2 hours is optimistic at best, but what you're describing clarifies a few other online "how-to" guides I found. The problem is that they all start with the air box removed. I have a service manual, and have been consulting that, but it's not been overly helpful. Do I really need to remove the upper and lower air box separately? I already removed and rinsed the air filter last night, but I put it back together to avoid getting crap in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Oh geeze Chris! Do you just want one of us to come out and get it done?Where and when.(PS, I take payment in beer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC1000rr Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) Yes, the whole housing has to come out. The lower housing sits on top of the throttle bodies, which covers the cables as they route down the frame to the engine. I was hesistant in doing it last year also, but its really not that hard of a process after I got into it. Lower airbox reinstall was probably the most pita due to how it fit on my RR with the dual ram air tubes. (Took some love and force)Just remove the screws that secure the airbox and on mine there was a hidden one kimda thats easy to forget. Then it all pops off. I didn't disconnect everything on top to free up room either. Just what i had too to make room. Edited March 21, 2012 by SJC1000rr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Looks like my Saturday is planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Ok, i'm down to where I need to be, but now I can't get the lower throttle cable removed, let alone installed.I believe I have found the 4 screws (2 on each side) that need to be loosened to remove the throttle body, but i have loosened them, and nothing is even close to BUDGING.is there a trick to this, or do I just need to pull harder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 motherfucker. This is getting increasingly frustrating...Even if this last part (throttle body removal and cable reinstall) had taken me 30 minutes, I would be DONE by now, and test riding the bike. GEORGE IS GETTIN' UPSET!SERENITY NOW! (are you supposed to yell it? HE DIDN'T SAY!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Yank on those TBs harder! They'll move eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprez55 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 If the screws on the rubber gaskets than the throttle bodies can come off. You will need to yank pretty hard forewords/ backwards and up to get the off and then the cable will come off quite easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Hondas suck! Once you are done with the cables lube all boots with wd-40 with your finger and that will help ALLOT with reassembly. Dont forget that little vacume line on left or the bike will not run correctly. took me hours to figure out my first time. Ball joint allens help a ton if you have any. We charge extra for honda lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC1000rr Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Did you get it done? I'll be working on Mykills tonight and will take pictures of how we get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin0469 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Madcat and I installed new throttle cables on my 600RR (and I did again on my 1000RR alone, I think) without removing anything but the old cables and tank. Never removed the throttle bodies. Yes, it was a bitch and it definitely hurt and took quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 i gave up yesterday and went out to dinner. trying again today, but my hangover is impeding progress... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 other than the 4 'boot' screws, is there anything else that holds the throttle bodies on?I am sure the screws have been adequately loosened, and this thing still won't budge. I'm damn near shaking the bike off the stands trying to pull on them, and i don't seem to be making any progress. Could i have overlooked some other bolt or something?my next resort is to get a ratchet strap and use that to pull upward on the damn throttle body... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 GOT IT!you have to see the measures i resorted to... Pictures to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Copeland Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Good deal man ! Hopefully you get it back together with no problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 going back together okay, but the throttle cables are binding right now. still messing with them to see what works...open to suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 everything is buttoned back up and working on top of that, my gauges work! I knew they were getting power and reading the fuel level and temp, but without throttle cables, I wasn't sure the tach was working. it is!That was far more work than I had anticipated, but like anything, I think it would be much easier the second time. I just hope there isn't a second time for several years.thanks for everyone's advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Now you understand why a lot of guys race Yamahas and Suzukis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVTPilot Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Now you understand why a lot of guys race Yamahas and Suzukis. I must admit that when I went track bike shopping I was looking for a CBR, since I was coming off a Honda for the last 6 years. After reading about the convoluted construction of the throttle bodies and airbox on the CBRs, I am one happy gixxer owner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC1000rr Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Now you understand why a lot of guys race Yamahas and Suzukis. I didn't have much problems with mine or doing Mike's just now. Only hick-up we had was I tightened the lower adjuster too much and had to loosen it up a bit. We had the gas tank changed out, throttle cables, OEM upper stay and radiator hose changed out in about 2 hours.Though, I'm really considering an R6 for next season for something new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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