Cheech Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Cheap and easy way - sledgehammer until the platters either physically deform and scratch all to hell (in multiple places, a little dent's not going to do much) or shatter (best case scenario) If you're ZOMG paranoid about the data, it might be possible for someone who really, really wants SOMETHING off that drive to snag something off the tracks that werent hit by the drill (the ones closest to the center and farthest away) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 tannerite? C4?Pack C4 between platters on the spindle and cover with blast-resistant dome. I think that data's pretty securely gone.Could make your own thermite and just cut the hard drive in pieces... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 This. I had a blast filling an old CPU with .22lr If you hit the drives, it won't go all the way through. It literally cakes up with lead.Makes sense, multiple pieces of metal would stop a .22. Didn't stop my 7.62x54R though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolWhip Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Yea, I'm just gonna agree and say shoot them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphy Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 it's called google, you should try it some timeStandard DoD 5220.22-M, US DoD 5220.22-Mhttp://www.usaid.gov/policy/ads/500/d522022m.pdfhttp://www.killdisk.com/dod.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 If you're still worried...:Ever put a penny on train tracks?Remember what it looked like after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Pack C4 between platters on the spindle and cover with blast-resistant dome. I think that data's pretty securely gone.Could make your own thermite and just cut the hard drive in pieces...Thermite could be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Got a set of cutting torches? Hard to read data off of a hunk of molten metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 it's called google, you should try it some timeStandard DoD 5220.22-M, US DoD 5220.22-Mhttp://www.usaid.gov/policy/ads/500/d522022m.pdfhttp://www.killdisk.com/dod.htmI don't think S'wing'er is bumping Top Secret.But you never know...I use a DoD software wipe for high security items at work.Then they get drilled or used somewhere else.Degaussing at home can't be done. Expensive powerful equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted April 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I think im ok with just the 3holes i drilled in each one, its not likethe secrets of the universe were on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilbit Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I had a friend who gave me a computer from her workplace years ago and discovered all of their software was still on it. When I bought a new computer I took the hard drive out and beat the heck out if it with a hammer until it finally cracked into a few pieces. I wish I had a drill LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Ive been waiting to see how this thread turned out.. Kinda sad actually considering not one person said the obvious which is. No one gives a shit about your hd enough to forensically recover it!!Youre paranoia is probably associated with the fact that you have pronz of some sort on your drive that could get you in trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 No one gives a shit about your hd enough to forensically recover it!!Youre paranoia is probably associated with the fact that you have pronz of some sort on your drive that could get you in trouble.I was completely thinking this but I've been too much of a dick to him in the last year so was gonna give him the free pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conn-e-rot Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Ive been waiting to see how this thread turned out.. Kinda sad actually considering not one person said the obvious which is. No one gives a shit about your hd enough to forensically recover it!!Youre paranoia is probably associated with the fact that you have pronz of some sort on your drive that could get you in trouble.^^^This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Ive been waiting to see how this thread turned out.. Kinda sad actually considering not one person said the obvious which is. No one gives a shit about your hd enough to forensically recover it!!Youre paranoia is probably associated with the fact that you have pronz of some sort on your drive that could get you in trouble.Lol yep still a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Lol yep still a dick.Nope.. Just stating facts.. Not meant to be mean in any way.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarron77 Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 .50 cal muzzle loader....when you absolutely, positively have to bust the shit out of something.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 ^^This! Not much lives after a blast from my TC .50 flint :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I'm strong enough that after I pull the disks off the inner spindle I normally just bend them into a taco. You just palm the disk, drive your hand into the edge of a desk and then squeeze. It bends the disk into a completely unusable piece of art. I keep the magnets off the read head to use on the fridge and around the house. You can usually hang a full size calender on your fridge with just one side of the magnet from inside the drive. Those things are ungodly strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted April 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Ive been waiting to see how this thread turned out..Kinda sad actually considering not one person said the obvious which is.No one gives a shit about your hd enough to forensically recover it!!Youre paranoia is probably associated with the fact that you have pronz of some sort on your drive that could get you in trouble.Nope.. Just stating facts.. Not meant to be mean in any way..Thanks Flounder, for the dick attitude instead of useful advice like most everyone else gave. No porn or anything even remotely bad on the drives, just personal information that I'd rather not see in someone else's hands. Identity theft is real, it happens everywhere, just trying to take a little extra step to make sure it doesn't happen to me; thanks for caring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Thanks Flounder' date=' for the dick attitude instead of useful advice like most everyone else gave. No porn or anything even remotely bad on the drives, just personal information that I'd rather not see in someone else's hands. Identity theft is real, it happens everywhere, just trying to take a little extra step to make sure it doesn't happen to me; thanks for caring.[/quote']The point is that no one is going to forensically recover your drive to the point you need to drill it. That type of analysis is extremely expensive and requires hi tech equipment and facilities. Dban and kill disk are good enough for govt and classified docs as well as most corporations. Shooting it for fun sure. Drilling it because of data theft risk. Not even close. That's the only point I was trying to make. I really wasn't trying to come off as an ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted April 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 The point is that no one is going to forensically recover your drive to the point you need to drill it. That type of analysis is extremely expensive and requires hi tech equipment and facilities. Dban and kill disk are good enough for govt and classified docs as well as most corporations. The harddrives were all inoperable, I couldn't use kill disk or whatever other software program you are referring to, which is why I wanted to know how to make the disks unusable. The drives all failed, I was able to recover some data from a few of them but most of them were complete loses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 The harddrives were all inoperable' date=' I couldn't use kill disk or whatever other software program you are referring to, which is why I wanted to know how to make the disks unusable. The drives all failed, I was able to recover some data from a few of them but most of them were complete loses.[/quote']What flounder is saying is that the people that have the seriously expensive equipment and software to recover data from the drives you describe do not give a shit about your data. They wouldn't bother, they have far bigger fish to fry. Drill them if it makes you feel better, certainly no harm in being anal about it. But you are not going to accomplish anything because they are already toast. All you are doing is turning the toast into crumbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWing'R Posted April 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 What flounder is saying is that the people that have the seriously expensive equipment and software to recover data from the drives you describe do not give a shit about your data. They wouldn't bother, they have far bigger fish to fry. Drill them if it makes you feel better, certainly no harm in being anal about it. But you are not going to accomplish anything because they are already toast. All you are doing is turning the toast into crumbs.Ok, riddle me this... if the drives were inoperable for mechanical reasons,couldn't the disks be removed and put into a working drive??That's all I was really trying to prevent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Ok' date=' riddle me this... if the drives were inoperable for mechanical reasons,couldn't the disks be removed and put into a working drive??That's all I was really trying to prevent.[/quote']Sure they could be.If I jump off my bike at 80 mph on the 480 bridge (in full gear of course) and it goes over the side and hits the bottom can I put it back together.Sure I could, but would it be worth it?Flounder is in IT, as am I. We look at things differently. We quantify it in terms of Risk. Risk is typically defined as R = L X IL equals likelihood and I equals Impact. The likelihood of anyone doing all that work on your hard drives is zero. Therefor your Risk is zero based upon the above equation. So throw the damn things in the trash and go ride your bike man!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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