Ryan_c_F Posted June 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I will help you pick up if needed.If you and MaxPower get things worked out before Sunday, I will be in Mansfield, and can bring my enclosed and pic it up for him. Fact, I would do this free of charge since I'm going home anyways.Maxpower you got my # if this happens, text me. I will be in Mansfield about 10am judging a car show, then around until mid afternoon/early evening. I don't have plans past like noon/1pm.Wow.... very awesome, guys.Max, I will PM you my phone # - please text or call when you have a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I remember reading somewhere the oiling issue was all sizes thru 86, including the uber-beast 1000R with cam gears; something regarding heat treating of the cams being too soft (?) Porter do you remember someone linking an old article on VFRWorld several years ago? Since I'm already getting lined up for some cool Ti hardware in my back, this lump would probably paralyze me just getting it onto the centerstand right now. Otherwise I'd be dragging it home.There's all sorts of info floating around on VFRWorld about this, some good, some totally wrong. You have to really sift through it, and figure out who to believe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_c_F Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 The only thing I've ever seen re: cam wear on these bikes is that the oiler channels on the stock engine are too narrow/ineffectual, and it leads to wear. Haven't heard anything about the metallurgy being bad or anything of that nature... just that they don't get a ton of oil naturally, especially on cold starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_c_F Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Well I guess what I read was just referring to the 700's?Early V45s suffered from cylinder head woes, but by the time the 700 Sabre came along those problems had been put to rest. With an overdrive six-speed transmission, the Sabre can be hustled up to speed in short order, and the engine's 10,500rpm redline comes up remarkably fast. Cruising at highway speeds of 70mph and above is where the Sabre shines: It's calm and absolutely free of vibration, a testimony to the V4's lack of primary imbalance.Read more: http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-japanese-motorcycles/honda-vf700s-sabre.aspx?page=2#ixzz1xnCq3Ox7Maybe in third... The noise this thing makes at speed is absolutely not to be believed.It completely wakes up at 6500 RPM, and just starts screaming at you. A serious beast. I'm really glad I owned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 The only thing I've ever seen re: cam wear on these bikes is that the oiler channels on the stock engine are too narrow/ineffectual, and it leads to wear. Haven't heard anything about the metallurgy being bad or anything of that nature... just that they don't get a ton of oil naturally, especially on cold starts.The primary problem is the oiling. Since the cams and followers aren't hardened as deeply, they fail pretty quickly, and that's where the poor metallurgy claims come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_c_F Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 The primary problem is the oiling. Since the cams and followers aren't hardened as deeply, they fail pretty quickly, and that's where the poor metallurgy claims come from.oohhh......... lol so finally I get it. haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Street Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Good afternoon, guys n gals.I'm looking to part ways with my V65. My dream bike for many years... got in while the deal was under $1000.00... it performed like a bike that cost less than $1000.00 lol. I'm asking for half of that.The bike is currently NOT RUNNING - this is why the price is so low. It needs an electrical system refresher (the reason why it's grounded), fork seals, brake pads, a rear master cylinder, and a side-cover if you can find one. The rear monoshock is also blown out ('cuz I'm fat lol) but I have a replacement ready to go. Also, in my frustration with the bike, I lost the key when it broke down. No idea where that is. But you'd need to get one cut eventually.However, for the good news: this Sabre has about 35k miles on it, and a clean title. The frame is straight, the transmission is strong, the clutch needs no work. No rips in the upholstery either. The engine was working marvelously before the electrical gremlin bit me, doing good work to catch me up to a squid in Timberlands on an R6 who was doing clutch-ups in traffic, so that I could shake my giant helmet disapprovingly at him. Good Honda!This is really for someone with a lot of patience and a knack for making custom parts work, or for someone with a Sabre who could use a lot of spare parts and a good engine.I have an aftermarket Rifle fairing that will be included. I would prefer to divest myself of this thing all at once, because I don't have any use for a full motorcycle in my garage right now... half a motorcycle would be even worse.Anyone interested, or know anyone who would be interested?If I just had a garage and some $$I've had my eye on that model for a couple of years now.Great bike but your timing is all wrong GLWTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Thinking of borrowing money and a garage to restore this beast...will call wealthy father tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 As far as the cam wear issue, I'm right. My dad has an 85 magna and did his homework. He also corrected the oiling issue. Another issue on these motors is the seals on the clutch transfer shaft leaking oil, which requires removing the drive shaft and associated cases and gear, the water pump, and a few other pieces to access the seal that for no good reason must be installed a nd removed from inside the motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJ Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 The primary problem is the oiling. Since the cams and followers aren't hardened as deeply, they fail pretty quickly, and that's where the poor metallurgy claims come from.I'll go with that. I believe you over random internet dudes, all things considered . My 500 already had the holeshot kit when I got it back in the dark ages so it wasn't an issue.We sure hijacked the hell out of Ryan's for sale thread, though . Hope whoever gets this beast has fun with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 As far as the cam wear issue, I'm right. My dad has an 85 magna and did his homework. He also corrected the oiling issue. Another issue on these motors is the seals on the clutch transfer shaft leaking oil, which requires removing the drive shaft and associated cases and gear, the water pump, and a few other pieces to access the seal that for no good reason must be installed a nd removed from inside the motor.I'll go with that. I believe you over random internet dudes, all things considered .Sam knows his stuff, I'd believe in what he tells me - just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_c_F Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Thinking of borrowing money and a garage to restore this beast...will call wealthy father tomorrow.Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedTriple44444 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Man... so tempted. Did you sell it? That's a serious piece of 1980's Honda there. I'm a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.W. Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 PM Sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_c_F Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Bike has not sold yet.Thanks for the PM JW I'm getting hold of your friend right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 As far as the cam wear issue, I'm right. My dad has an 85 magna and did his homework. He also corrected the oiling issue. Another issue on these motors is the seals on the clutch transfer shaft leaking oil, which requires removing the drive shaft and associated cases and gear, the water pump, and a few other pieces to access the seal that for no good reason must be installed a nd removed from inside the motor.I know exactly what seal you're talking about! I have one for my 500, but I "fixed" it an easier way. You have to find an o-ring that fit's on the shaft tightly, and you have to work it down in between the seal and the shaft. I think it might still be seeping a little bit, but a gusher of a leak as it was before!Someone buy this bike! The things that it needs shouldn't be bad at all to fix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Ok, it looks like Ryan and I have worked out a deal on this beast. The one issue, transportation.Is anyone running between Columbus and Cleveland anytime soon that could haul this bike down here for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Congrats max. I really wanted to take this one on but its just bad timing. If I still had a truck I would help you out. Good luck tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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