vvvpr Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Supreme Court ruling re "National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius" means corporations can use federal law to force people to buy their products.SCOTUS OBAMACARE DECISION MAKES INDIVIDUAL MANDATE A FACT & UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE COVERAGE A FICTIONIf you want to read all 974 pages of the deceptively-titled "Patient Protection And Affordable Healthcare Act" (the actual Obamacare law) you can do so here:http://www.healthcare.gov/law/full/If you want to read all 193 pages of the obscurely-styled "National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius" U.S. Supreme Court decision (the actual Obamacare ruling) you can do so here:http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-393c3a2.pdfAs was the case with F. James ("Fat Jim") Sensenbrenner Jr.'s USA Patriot Act, NDAA 2012, HR347, HR658, HR3606 and so many other corporate-backed bills that have taken us down the slippery slope from freedom to fascism and widened the gap between our ruler Haves (the 1%) and serf Have Nots (the 99%), there's a good chance your Senators and Representative in Washington didn't read the law before they passed it. There's a better chance the television talking heads tripping over themselves to tell you what to think about the SCOTUS Obamacare decision didn't read that either...http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-june-28-2012/cnn---fox-news-report-supreme-court-decision...and it's a sad certainty that the vast majority of the American Sheeple (a) will never look up from their iPhones or away from their Fakebook pages long enough to read either the new "healthcare" rules or the ruling that proclaimed them "Constitutional" and (b) wouldn't understand all the deliberately obfuscated legalspeak if they did.So where can Average Joe get the plain and simple truth about the "Affordable Healthcare Act (ACA)" and the Supreme Court's "NFIB v. Sebelius (11-393)" ruling?Well according to the "truth in politics" (ugh!) watchdogs at FactCheck.org, he won't get it from Barack Obama (a.k.a. Odrona the Indefinite Detainer), and he won't get it from Mitt Romney (a.k.a. the Godfather of Obamacare)...'With the U.S. Supreme Court upholding the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act on June 28, voters are guaranteed to continue hearing the same old false claims about the law from politicians. And President Barack Obama and presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney wasted little time in taking to the airwaves to rehash plenty we've fact-checked before. Obama even threw in a few new claims.* Obama reiterated his "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan" refrain, despite the fact that at least a few million workers won't keep their employer-sponsored plans, according to the Congressional Budget Office.* The president also exaggerated the benefits of the law, such as the number of young adults who were able to join their parents' plans, thanks to the law, and the number of individuals who will receive rebates issued by insurance companies that didn't spend enough premium dollars on health care.* Romney repeated a number of distortions, saying that the law would "cut Medicare" by $500 billion and that it "adds trillions to our deficits." That's a reduction in the future growth of Medicare spending over 10 years. And CBO says the law would reduce the deficit.* Romney said the law is a "job-killer." But CBO says the law would have a "small" impact on jobs, mainly affecting the amount of labor workers choose to supply. Those getting subsidies, for instance, might work less hours since they're paying less for health care.* Romney claimed the law "puts the federal government between you and your doctor." The law would set minimum benefits packages, but medical services will not be government-run, nor does the law allow for rationing of care.'http://factcheck.org/2012/06/romney-obama-uphold-health-care-falsehoods/Average Joe won't get the plain and simple truth about what the SCOTUS Obamacare decision really means from Congress, from TV coverage, or from the corporate-sponsored political puppets representing either side of the "Two-Party Tyranny" the global elite use to keep us divided and fighting each other rather than united and attacking them. Fortunately, however, he can get a glimpse of it here:"A deeply divided Court held that the individual mandate, which requires that virtually all Americans either obtain health insurance or pay a penalty by 2014, is constitutional... Defending the constitutionality of the mandate, the government's primary argument was that Congress can require everyone to buy health insurance using its power under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution, because the failure to buy insurance shifts the costs of health care for the uninsured to health-care providers, insurance companies, and everyone who does have health insurance. Five Justices - the Chief Justice and Justices Kennedy, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito - all rejected that argument. But the government still won, because a different set of five Justices – the Chief Justice and Justices Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan – agreed that the mandate was constitutional, but for a different reason... Although the Chief Justice rejected the government's Commerce Clause argument, he agreed with one of the government's alternative arguments: the mandate imposes a tax on people who do not buy health insurance, and that tax is something that Congress can impose using its constitutional taxing power." http://www.scotusblog.com/2012/06/todays-health-care-decision-in-plain-english/The bottom line is this:As were "Citizens United v. FEC" (which allows global and even foreign corporations to buy our elections) and "AT&T Mobility v. Concepcion" (which makes consumer class actions against corporations infinitely more difficult), the SCOTUS "NFIB v. Sebelius" decision is a BIG WIN for corporations in general and health care and insurance companies in particular. Contrary to the claims of clueless Obamapologists from coast to coast, neither Obamacare nor this ruling "paves the way for Universal Healthcare Coverage". Instead, they set the precedent for more individual mandates by which the corporations that control our politicians and through them our government can order us to order their products.REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS: ALL PROBLEMS, NO SOLUTION.END TWO-PARTY TYRANNY: OUR SECOND REVOLUTION!###NOTE TO TWITTER USERS: Since our recent unrelated disclosures that (a) eating a bowl of Cheerios is no more "heart healthy" than eating a bowl of dirt ( http://bit.ly/zDYa45 ) and (b) many American Bikers suffer from Sensenbrenner Syndrome ( http://bit.ly/MBBIBQ ), tweets from @VVVPR are being blocked from the Twitter search stream. If you are a Twitter user, we ask you to contact @Support and demand this corporate fascist censorship be ended:https://support.twitter.com/forms/general?subtopic=web_search###IronBoltBruce via VVV PR ( http://veritasvirtualvengeance.com | http://twitter.com/vvvpr )Related Image: http://veritasvirtualvengeance.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/individual_mandate.jpgRelated Video (A MUST SEE): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuvkXqE8HDw Tag: #obamacare, #romneycare, #healthcare, #scotus, #sebelius, #aca, #universalhealthcare, #sensenbrenner, #democrats, #republicans, #gop, #demopublicans, #bushbamney, #obama, #romney, #fascism, #fascists, #kleptocracy, #anonymous, #ows, #revolutionKey: obamacare, romneycare, healthcare, health care, scotus, supreme court, nfib v. sebelius, affordable healthcare act, affordable care act, aca, sebelius, single payer, universal healthcare, universal health care, sensenbrenner, democrats, republicans, gop, bushbamney, obama, romney, fascism, fascists, kleptocracy, anonymous, ows, revolution 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 FW: FW: FW: FW: You will get the AIDSMy neighbor's brother's dog once got AIDS for posting crap on a forum and for starting an entirely new thread devoted to it when there's two threads already full of similar crap. (factcheck.org/totallygullible)Obama hates white people + Romney's secret Mormon agenda against the Christians = America in the toilet.Tag: #Idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore #Postthiscrapsomewhereelse #liberalscum #conservativeracists #hellinahandbasketForward this message to everyone in your address book, e-mail, Facebook, Twitter, NAMBLA forum, Reddit, and Tinfoilhatclub.com or else you will have bad luck for 7 years, get AIDS, and your cat will claw your face for no apparent reason 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 This thread has win written all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 @Justin - the "America's in the toilet" line is probably pretty accurate... +rep for excellent summary of too long, too idiotic of a post.This vvpr fella makes ExArch look intelligent. Ok, mebbe not, but close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvpr Posted July 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 I never cease to be amazed by how those with the least intellect are the most willing to display their ignorance and attack others not similarly afflicted. Whenever you morons stop competing over who lives in the dumbest trailer park, find somebody who passed 5th grade Civics and get them to explain to you why ignoring or being IGNORANT of the warnings in our original posting above will give your grandchildren one more good reason to slaughter you for meat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapesmuggler27 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 I see you ride a Harley I found the problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 I never cease to be amazed by how those with the least intellect are the most willing to display their ignorance and attack others not similarly afflicted. Whenever you morons stop competing over who lives in the dumbest trailer park, find somebody who passed 5th grade Civics and get them to explain to you why ignoring or being IGNORANT of the warnings in our original posting above will give your grandchildren one more good reason to slaughter you for meat...I don't have grandchildren, and IDGARA about yours... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 I never cease to be amazed by how those with the least intellect are the most willing to display their ignorance and attack others not similarly afflicted. Whenever you morons stop competing over who lives in the dumbest trailer park, find somebody who passed 5th grade Civics and get them to explain to you why ignoring or being IGNORANT of the warnings in our original posting above will give your grandchildren one more good reason to slaughter you for meat...Kettle calling the pot black.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 I see you ride a Harley I found the problemOuch, that sorta sings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Ah, vvvpr. You neglected to answer some of my questions in your earlier thread, I have a link to them here for your convenience. I'd like to hear what you have to say about this.http://www.ohioriders.net/showpost.php?p=863428&postcount=45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 I never cease to be amazed by how those with the least intellect are the most willing to display their ignorance and attack others not similarly afflicted. Whenever you morons stop competing over who lives in the dumbest trailer park, find somebody who passed 5th grade Civics and get them to explain to you why ignoring or being IGNORANT of the warnings in our original posting above will give your grandchildren one more good reason to slaughter you for meat...ignorance is only making biased political threads on a motorcycle forum with right wing scare tactics. Its people like you why the Republicans are so fucked. I can't express how much I hate the 2 party system and radical morons of either side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 exarch calling exarch..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprez55 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 FW: FW: FW: FW: You will get the AIDSMy neighbor's brother's dog once got AIDS for posting crap on a forum and for starting an entirely new thread devoted to it when there's two threads already full of similar crap. (factcheck.org/totallygullible)Obama hates white people + Romney's secret Mormon agenda against the Christians = America in the toilet.Tag: #Idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore #Postthiscrapsomewhereelse #liberalscum #conservativeracists #hellinahandbasketForward this message to everyone in your address book, e-mail, Facebook, Twitter, NAMBLA forum, Reddit, and Tinfoilhatclub.com or else you will have bad luck for 7 years, get AIDS, and your cat will claw your face for no apparent reasonI especially like the Liberal's cum hashtag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSB67 Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) I'm confused as to what vvvpr is. I thought Casper exposed it as a guerilla marketing firm for hire, but I wouldn't expect such a business to be offended by our political "ignorance." P.S. I guess the trolling serves to bump the threads. If I were a mod, I would have made the mistake of banning this spammer from the start (like Twitter did) and deprived the board of all this amusement. Edited July 2, 2012 by brn6604 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 I'm confused as to what vvvpr is. I thought Casper exposed it as a guerilla marketing firm for hire, but I wouldn't expect such a business to be offended by our political "ignorance." P.S. I guess the trolling serves to bump the threads. If I were a mod, I would have made the mistake of banning this spammer from the start (like Twitter did) and deprived the board of all this amusement.Don't give them any ideas. Sure has been boring since exarch got banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.W. Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Spam, Spam, Spam, and SpamOh don't ban him! I love this guy (or group controlling the account). It's sort of like having a pet troll to play with. I do agree, however, these rambling barrages of anger should be kept in the correct area so they don't stink up the front page of the forum.Watching him repeat the talking points of his handlers confirms that all the time and effort I spent on my degrees was completely worth it because I can actually formulate my own opinions without the help of special interest groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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