Tigerpaw Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 RIP little guy.http://news.yahoo.com/police-boy-7-shot-death-pa-gun-store-200049283.htmlMERCER, Pa. (AP) — A man's handgun went off while he was holding it as he got into his truck in the parking lot of a western Pennsylvania gun store Saturday, and the shot killed his 7-year-old son, authorities said.Joseph V. Loughrey, 44, of Sharpsville, was getting into the truck when the 9 mm handgun discharged, wounding Craig Allen Loughrey in the chest, according to state police. The boy died at the scene at Twigs Reloading Den in East Lackawannock Township, 60 miles north of Pittsburgh.Investigators said Loughrey told them he didn't realize there was a bullet still in the chamber. "This happens all too often where people think the gun was empty," Lt. Eric Hermick told The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.Loughrey was trying to sell two guns at the store — one a scope rifle and the other, the handgun, state police said. The owners told Loughrey the store doesn't buy guns so Loughrey and his son returned to the truck with them. Loughrey put the boy in the passenger seat and loaded the rifle into the truck, state police said. He was attempting to get inside and reached to put the handgun in the center storage console when it fired, they said.Loughrey was questioned by state police, who said he was cooperative and distraught. The shooting is being investigated as an accident, although Loughrey could face charges, including manslaughter and negligence, Hermick told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette."I know that little kid was everything to him," Mark McLaughlin of Fredonia, a friend and co-worker of Loughrey's at Superior Well Services in Fredonia, told the Tribune-Review.Messages left for the coroner's office and at a listing in Loughrey's name were not immediately returned.Assholes need to learn proper weapon handling:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Copeland Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Very sad !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Gawd-damn fucking idiot. Gives all gun owners a bad rep from the nay-sayers.Poor little guy left this world from something that shouldn't have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Hell on Earth for him now, that should've never happened......how the fuck do you not know your gun isn't loaded, or even assume or act like it isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiggy74 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 That's a tragically expensive mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 before the tragic smelting incident i would check, check again, and then check a third time any gun i was handling - mine and especially someone else's.drop mag, rack, rack, rack, pinky check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 before the tragic smelting incident i would ....The what now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelstoker Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Gawd-damn fucking idiot. Amen. Absolutely no reason to have the gun loaded, safety should be on and the gun should be in a case.Sorry for the little boy, tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblosser Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 The what now?any firearms i <might> have had were lost in a horrible smelting incident, Mr. Government Agent Man......and any that <might> have survived were locked in a safe that tragically went overboard when my boat hit a large wave on Lake Erie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 any firearms i <might> have had were lost in a horrible smelting incident, Mr. Government Agent Man......and any that <might> have survived were locked in a safe that tragically went overboard when my boat hit a large wave on Lake Erie...That's unfortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 This idiot broke every damn rule in the book and an innocent child pays the price. Way to go, moron.When I put my pistols in the safe I make sure they are pointed in a safe direction as I store them loaded and I'm worried I might catch the trigger and discharging when I pick them up. Chances of that happening? About the same as the chances of me winning the lottery while I'm balls deep in Emma Watson... (In this case, safe direction means pointing directly towards an outside wall where there's nothing but miles of farmland, even if the bullet makes it out of the safe.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 any firearms i <might> have had were lost in a horrible smelting incident, Mr. Government Agent Man......and any that <might> have survived were locked in a safe that tragically went overboard when my boat hit a large wave on Lake Erie...No shit?! You too, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 With the few details in the story, I'm assuming he did not have a CCW. I could be wrong. That being said:He walked into a public place/private business with a loaded weapon.He had it pointed in an unsafe direction.He had his finger near/on the trigger while not prepared to fire.Very tragic, but it sounds like this guy was an accident waiting to happen sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 RIP little guy. Would be heart breaking. I hope the state files charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit12 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Tragic indeed, a two or three year old got very lucky at Woodbury's about ten years ago when he was hit with a ricochet inside the store.All I can say is may God be with this family, I can't even imagine whats going thru their heads right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrown57 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 RIP this is just to sad.As others have said he broke many rules of gun safety and now he has to live with what he did. I don't think he should serve any time as what he's going through is worse than any prison could ever do. I pisses me off when I see people with their finger on the trigger of even toy guns. I was at an airsoft place at the flea market yesterday and this guy had his pistol (airsoft) and had his finger on the trigger and kept accidentally pointing it at people including myself. The owners kids, who help around the store, had better gun safety habits than that guy did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jst2fst Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 That's sad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Taking a child out of this world "accidentally" because of your own stupidity... Hopefully any surviving children from this sperm donor don't inherit his intelligence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 RIP this is just to sad.As others have said he broke many rules of gun safety and now he has to live with what he did. I don't think he should serve any time as what he's going through is worse than any prison could ever do. He should be charged with any crime that he committed. Just because he feels bad about it doesn't mean he should be forgiven. Parents who leave kinds in hot cars don't intent to hurt anyone, and they feel bad about it - but they are still charged if the prosecutor feels the parent was negligent.I think he should be charged with involuntary manslaughter. As the victim was under 12yo, under PA law, this is a felony 2.For this, under PA Code 303.15, this is a gravity score of 8. http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/204/chapter303/s303.15.htmlGravity score 8 sentencing is 6-18 years, with a + or - 6 year mitigation/aggravation correction range. http://www.penn-law.com/lawyer-attorney-1831194.htmlSo, according to my cursory reading of these laws, if he is convicted of F2 Involuntary Manslaugher the judge can sentence him to no time at all. Or he can sentence him to 24 years. A lot will depend on this guy's history. Are the guns legal? Is he allowed to own them? Has he been convicted of breaking any gun laws in the past? Does he have an established pattern of poor handling of firearms?Assuming he's just a regular guy with a clean history and character witnesses that will state he normally has very good firearms handling procedures and this was a one-off accident then I think it would be appropriate to convict him of F2 Involuntary manslaughter but his jail sentence can be very low, if anything at all. Probation even. The key is that he'd have the felony record and lose his guns.Any kind of bad history at all and serious jail time is appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 ^^^ What he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent2406 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Come on Mags, you know you want too!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8mmDale Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Why was he pointing a gun at his own kid?!?! Loaded or not, point an unloaded gun at my kid and see what happens to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownsfan1 Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 RIP this is sad all because the d-bag didn't know how to properly handle a gun. A gun is always loaded, always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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