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You're wrong. This forum is not without trolls, true, but Butters is not one of them. He is simply trying to make you see the error of your ways regarding helmets and safety gear. You see, this is not a national forum full of faceless members. Most of us regular contributors are friends who have met and rode with each other and actually care about the welfare of other members. So, when an uninformed noob comes here and starts spouting off about something such as helmet use being dangerous, he has to expect some backlash. Our members take safety gear very seriously for very good reasons. Many of us have had our hides saved by the same gear you are claiming will give us whiplash from heavy braking, which is complete horseshit.

Nothing personal dude, but maybe you should wait to build a race bike until you can afford it. You can't race at any track I've ever been to without full leathers and one a dem God awful brain buckets that will rip your head off when you pull the chute anyways.

So, Theresa and I have been riding 99% track for about 3 years now. maybe putting about 200miles on the street a year. This is mainly due to the hassle is was to switch back and forth from Track fairings to street bodywork, lights and so on. We have realized how much we actually did miss the street being able to go on rides(nothing more than spirited 60-80% of pace) on some back roads, going to dinner and just being on the bike more than the twice a month we were getting when going to the track. That being said, we didn't exactly get touring bikes. First off no we are NOT selling the CBR or the R6 those are staying as dedicated track bikes, and will stay that way till they no longer run haha. Second eventually these will make it to the track, just don't know when are anything else for that matter. I wanted to Say (though they are not on here) thanks to Ducati of Indianapolis. I have had the pleasure of being a CR for them for almost 2 years now. They know how to take care of a customer. Good prices, great service and amazing people work there. Do not hesitate to contact them! well enjoy.. as much as I plan on Theresa is Now Rocking a 2013 Ducati 848 EVO I decided on the 2013 Ducati Panigale

All I got to say is butters and maxx are cool as hell to hang with and toss a few back. Just get to know some people on here first man and I'm sure they will be glad to help you out. If not they will run ya off sooner or later, I haven't been here long and seen it happen a lot.

Holy shit, is that exarch?

I'm seeing the same thing. The "trial" is devolving into race baiting. Consider headlines on some news sites: CRACKER CRIME: 'Why Black People Understand Rachel Jeantel'... 'What White People Don't Understand'... SALON: The smearing... State's star witness 'more effective for defense'... SHOW TRIAL... Zimmerman Acquittal to Cause Race Riots? Not much here about the rule of law or even the evidence at hand. All about race...

as noted, he was reported initially as a Hispanic white... inflammatory racial provocation by all media outlets. Listening to that main witness, that young lady with a horrific neck ring of fat, I learned today that "cracker" is NOT a racial term. Nigger is a racial term, nigga is not a racial term, and they are going to hang that zipperman regardless of guilt to appease the nation of those offended. Both guilty feeling white liberal news media types, and black americans who are sure this guy voted against everything they stand for. NOT one mention during the whole trial that black on black crime is beyond acceptable in this country, but lo' we have one maybe whitish dude who killed one definitely blackish dude, so let the riots begin Can obama have a beer summit or something? edited to add obama jab, sorry, can't help myself

huh? Pretty sure there's no debate on if he shot him. NoBama 2012

I wouldn't worry to much about burnouts until wheel spin becomes a problem. Until then I think your justwasting a tire. In the pic i posted it looks like I'm carrying the front wheel. If it isn't then there is almost zero weight on it. Not once did I do a burnout. Also some passes were on cold tires. Granted I wasn't launching really hard, maybe holding at 8k rpm. I still had to ride the bike home and don't like totally abusing it either. I was just there having fun and legally wringing out my bike. I will probably be there again a couple time this year to do the same. Wouldn't mind doing the Ohio Mile this year also!

I'm quite sure they'd report him as a martian if it got them more ratings.

Placing bets now on how big the riots will be when found not guilty, LA size or bigger? Dumb ass simple minded African American young people will use it as their excuse. And no, Im not being racist. They always do it and blame the white people. Its fucking stupid.

You're welcome. You want your bike done right. That doesn't mean expensive, it just means "right". When other competitors look at what you're riding you want them to think that you care enough about yourself to do things the right way and that makes them feel better about lining up next to you.

I've never worn a Snell or DOT rated doo-rag, so what do I know about anything?

Thanks Butters. Wasn't crying about it, I was just trying to point out the usefulness of having one and the pointlessness of arguing being dead and whiplash free.

Wow, this got out of hand quick. I'm more interested in racing in any form (even 2 drunks in a 100 yard foot race outside a bar at 2am in January) than I am in watching the fuse get lit on somebody's tampon, but the fuse got lit on this one. I will weigh in on this as a person who wears helmets all the time and split one in a crash 19 years ago. Less than a quarter mile after pulling out of my driveway I came over a hill to find a car stopped in my lane. I really don't remember anything about the wreck but I was told later that I was going 45mph when I parted ways with my bike ( a beautiful blue/green/white 92 ZX7). I was told I landed on my feet facing the wrong direction but still going about as fast as I was on the bike. I immediately got slammed to the pavement head first. I woke up in the hospital that night with a broken foot and the worst headache I've ever had. The doctor told me they needed to keep me to monitor my brain swelling. It had swollen up as far as it could and if it were to go anymore they would need to start cutting holes in my skull to relieve pressure. The next day they showed me my helmet. It had split from the base in the back all the way around the top and stopped about an inch or two from the eye port on the front. I was also informed by the same doctor that my brains would have been all over the road had I not been wearing a helmet and that I had taken the hardest head-hit that he had seen somebody live through. I tend to think he was right because I know how much pain I experienced as a result of this wreck. I remember pulling out of my driveway and then waking up in the hospital that night. Everything in between is lost. Did I get whiplash from my helmet? I really doubt it and if I start experienceing pain from it years from now (or even today) I'll deal with it and continue to ride because helmets have afforded me these extra days and years that I probably wouldn't have had otherwise. What you do is your business and I honestly don't care. I know several people who don't wear helmets whether they ride Harleys or everything else. It's your life live it how you want. I just thought I'd weigh in with what I KNOW about helmets. Can we get back to racing now????

Lol. But I really hope they find this guy and fry him. Joins as an 18X and can't hack it so he medicals out rather than finish his four as 11 bang bang. The CIA sees fit to give him a job and a clearance. Gets a job with the NSA making bank. Sees something he doesn't like and decides to break his clearance to tell the world about it. Decides he wants the credit due so he does it publically so everyone knows it was him....After fleeing to a non-extradition country so he can get the credit without the punishment....And then proceeds to start running more once we set our sights on him. Whining about not being able to get a fair trail while still leaking more information. Fucking putz. Cut out his tounge, tie a US flag around his neck and drop him on the Paki/Afghan border.

Been living in the garage and paint booth so haven't had a chance to respond. I'm curious who you think should be punished? This guy knowingly accepted a job with a clearance, and got paid handsomely for it. He didn't like something he found so he violated his NDA and his TS/SCI and exposed the information. He didn't just expose information either, he made sure to do it in a manner that allowed him to take the credit for the exposure. He also was whining and crying about being punished for that same credit he wanted. The punishment has to be swift and harsh to prevent others from following in his footsteps. Yes, I think they just make an example of him because he is worse that just a leak, he's being an cowardly attention whore while he is at it. The intelligence gathering program information he leaked shouldn't have been that much of a suprise. Have you read what the Patriot Act allows for? I'm pretty sure the camera in my bathroom has an NSA logo on it.

dude, get your heads out of the clouds. not every friggin person wants to be just a like. man yall are really some trolls with no apparent life. i have better shit to do than read troll script. move the hell on. go preach helmet safety to the ky bikers association. them dudes will tear your helmeted head off with facts you lame brains cant figure out. i do not have a friggin helmet, therefore i do not wear one. troll somewhere else and let this thread be about racing. steve is a troll, id be happy to tell him again. if yall are not trolls, why are you on a thread about racing and there was never helmet talk before my thread was highjacked by troll [atrol, shit man,