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No shit! That boy won't even visit his daddy.

have you seen her, pretty sure he doesn't care.

Ok before "we" go further, I need to know if you're just trolling for shits and giggles and won't take anything I say personally, or if you're actually some butt hurt old man who hates sports or the buckeyes or people on your lawn or whatever else. So what's the deal? You trolling or you being a pissy old dick butt?

I'd hit it

He gets a cute little girlfriend and abandons us all!

I can see you and earache's (and i'm sure many other people) point of view on it. I also think it's somewhat arguing semantics and taking things a little too literally considering what it is, which is harmless team spirit and pride for something they are a part, even if in the smallest of ways... whether it's because they're alumni, a resident of columbus, or ohio, or even because they have family that live in Ohio, or they live in a Big Ten college area, or whatever remote connection imaginable. I don't think people are claiming any responsibility for the win, I think they're basking in the reflected glory. We do it during Olympics, World Cups, or even something small like a family member graduating or getting married. People get enthusiastic and proud for things that they had little to no impact on all the time, and being proud of your school making it to the finals despite many set backs is no different. Ok, I just wanted to make sure this was harmless trolling around. Now that we know where everyone stands, we can go back to having fun: I don't understand hating a school in some of the same ways you don't understand why anyone would identify with a school. Like i mentioned above, I can concede that it's a fair point that no, the vast majority of proud fans did nothing directly to aid the team in whatever success they had... but on the other hand, what part did OSU play in your life to earn your ire? Did Brutus Buckeye seduce you in a bar and Cosby you in a nearby hotel, buckeyes deep, no lube? Is your name Inigo Montoya, and the OSU marching band killed your father, and they must now prepare to die? In short, I'm trying to understand why it's not total hypocrisy to tout the relative non-involvement of fans being irrelevant to OSU football, and at the same time, toot your bitter sad little horn of hatred of OSU anything for a team that has had zero direct involvement in your life. At least we have the excuse of being merely guilty of silly enthusiasm and petty team/regional loyalties. what excuse do you have for being a dick butt?

That always gets me a little bit when people are bragging about how good "we" did. I'm always thinking, I wonder if they think yelling at the tv from their sofaes them part of the team or something. I heard some lady at Kroger practically yelling about how "we" just won even though we had our 3rd string quarterback. I don't share the same sense of pride in a football win bc I know I have literally had nothing to do with it. On that note though, I do hope they win bc I dislike how bummed out people get when they lose. More than anything, I hope it's a good game. I appreciate the entertainment of watching a competitive game more than walking away with a win.Jbot, I'm getting cranky old man vibe from earache although it appears I'm also giving that same vibe off.

Yeah I can chime in. I have a '12 RZR 570. Its a cool machine. I was coming off a sport quad (LTZ400). I wanted something i could use for work around a future property (basically just a snow plow and moving trailers around). But I also wanted to be able to go out with the wife. I went the polaris route because of the sportiness and the sheer sales volume means a lot of aftermarket. Granted I know the 570 is the smallest motor but the machine is really capable. Still climbs anything I throw at it, and can get up to 58 mph on good open spaces (though its sketchy). I wanted the 50" widtch because I wanted to be able to load it in my truck bed, and also didn't want to worry about not fitting on ATV trails. After you get into it all, turns out its a PITA to actually haul it in the truck bed. I have short bed truck so the rear tires would be on the tailgate...plenty of concerns with that. Of course there are tailgate supports ETC but it just wasn't worth it. Also makes the truck very top heavy. I ended up just getting a trailer for it. I do generally like my RZR a lot. My biggest gripes have been build quality, design issues, durability, and warranty support. I spent a good part of time reading through the forums learning the common issues. Dumb shit like fuel lines rubbing on frame rails with no support. Rear hub bushings...with no zerk fittings (though all other bushings had zerks, had to drill and tap the hubs). Melted tail light lenses, which seem to be fairly common, had to buy LED bulbs to keep heat down. Some have melted beds, because of the high heat from the exhaust. Then you have the shitty designed Fan breaker which is on the under side of the cab and is not water proof. Resulting in a failed breaker and overheating. There are a lot of these little nuances that I 'think' i've taken care of. The 13's had a bad intake tube resulting in mud intrusion to the engine, polaris has been crappy about paying for the failures. The stock tie rods, ball joints, tie rod ends, and bearings are crap. Stock tires are crap. The body panels don't line up, looks like a 2 yr old assembled it. The factory cage is junk, as I found out when I rolled it at like 5mph and a tree crunched it down to just above the top of my helmet. (have a much nicer aftermarket cage now). Getting warranty work has been a nightmare. My primary clutch went out with 14 hrs on the machine. Those that know my know how meticulous and careful I am with things. First time to the dealer couldn't get it to replicate, then finally just went out on a ride and left me stranded. They were trying to blame it on me that I was abusive. Then changed their tone and saw it was a manufacturing defect. Then I had an axle problem the covered after complaining. I know a lot of this is your dealer and going to bat for you. I've heard many of these SXS's have a similar story. Coming from an ATV I miss the speed/acceleration (which if you got more power would be ok, like the 900 trail). But still you can't ride it the same. Its a different type of riding. I don't like that I spend 2-3 hrs cleaning it out everytime, where the ATV was just a quick wash. I have to scoop up about 7 gallons of muck from my driveway every time we go out (and I avoid mud holes usually). Seems like I have to spend $100-$200 on parts everytime I go out on repairs when I get home. Not repairs from wrecks...just stuff breaking. I miss just throwing the ATV in the truck bed and rolling out, its more of an ordeal to go out now. I do love having my wife with me. I also enjoy that I have a big kit/pack worth of stuff in the bed with tools, spare parts, water, oil, food, whatever you can take it with you. Long day rides are MUCH less tiring. One day in Black Mountain we covered 120 miles in a day. I really do get a BIG smile on my face when I ride it. But everything has its advantages. Best thing I ever did to my RZR were an aftermarket 1/2" umhw full skid plate and aftermarket coilovers with reservoir shocks. Night and day difference. Close 3rd is 8ply radial tires. RZR aftermarket is addicting. I have about $4k in mine in all this stuff. IF I could do it all again. I may look at the Can-am's. I haven't heard much on the John Deere's but they aren't very sporty. I'd probably end up with the 900 trail that just came out. Most places are loosening up on their width requirements, think you'll be alright. Here is mine with the new cage, before adding the doors. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c192/BertoBizkit/ATV/DSCN0688.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c192/BertoBizkit/ATV/052513_7961.jpg

It was a throw back comment to a prior bitchfest about guns and safety.