Oh forgot about the 610 Husqys. Those are prolly crap bikes too though. I wouldn't know about falling short. Were not out there racing. And yes I do ride with Katana guys and 250 ninjas,metric and leaky cruisers and an occasional scooter pimp. And yes we give each other shit but all in good fun. We don't mean it. Ride what you have and enjoy it. What I thought was dumb was Dguys comment about : Driving an hour to get to a good road. Welcome to Ohio. decent 15 minute stretch of road More than that out there. You're not trying hard enough. is horrid with no fairings , no wind protection, uncomfortable seating position, and only being a 400.. Whiners never prosper. Better get yourself a fully faired bagger to be as comfy as possible out there. Apparently that's what it's about. And next time I won't forget a smiley Dubguy.