swingset

he watches fox news. what do you expect him to believe? creationism, the bible, obama is the devil and guns don't kill. even though I can post almost every day 2 or more shooting stories just from cincinnati.

I don't watch Fox news, or any shitty TV news service for that matter. But, you're wrong about everything else why should this be any different?

You can post stories of gun violence every day, and it still won't change that more people use guns defensively than to murder. You can post 100 stories, and it still won't mean that guns do the murdering. You can spend all day of your empty, sad little sexless life posting news articles about misdeeds with guns, and I still won't hurt anyone with my gun because you think they have magic power over people.

I've shit things that had more common sense than you.

Glad you're liking the Vee. Mine has been a tireless workhorse and I abuse it.

On the pegs, if you want a set of wider and firmer pegs, I have a set of aftermarket KLR pegs that are a direct-fit for the Vee. I'll trade 'em for a beer.

The fork braces are great, mine made a difference (where I really notice it is on sketchy surfaces at lean and in high crosswinds). Richland Rick's brace is the most affordable and equal in quality to a Superbrace.

Another thing that will change the handling of the Vee for the better is to go a little stiff on the rear shock and raise the forks in the triple clamp by 5/8". It's a free mod, try it. Helps with turn-in and changes the whole feel of the bike (for the better). Don't go too high in the clamps or you'll suffer some high-speed stability, but a little goes a long way.

Well whatever delusions make you happy... unless you have some new trick, I'm done with this...

You should have been done with it about 20 pages ago. If I had been so bitch slapped by my own words, I would have surrendered my account.

So you can't distinguish between a consentual act between adults and an unwanted physical assault?

Of course I can you fucking mook. I was toying with your clumsy point, which you made poorly. You didn't differentiate anything, but seem to think you did. You fucking suck at this.

You can't distinguish between something designed, and something evolved?

Of course I can, again you don't even understand what you're arguing or what you've typed. How you use a thing is all that ever matters not why or when it was invented or how it came to be. A rock evolved from natural processes, it's also a weapon and was probably the first weapon man ever picked up. You don't even have a valid point, and we've beaten the sense out of it 100 times.

You stupid motherfucking moron.

You don't like the fact that my opinion differs from yours, and is equally valid.

I don't like that you're a trembling, emotional twat, and ignore facts that defeat your stupid assertions, and instead just flank and obfuscate like a coward. Your opinion, stated as truths, are irrational and non-sensical displays of circular logic and child-like beliefs. I would respect your fear of guns, but you won't even admit it. And that's all your opinion is...fear dressed as an argument.

You sure like personal attacks and insults.... I bet it makes you feel special.

There are several thousand people on this site I haven't and will not insult. Even some I disagree vehemently with.

Guns cause violence, because they were invented to. And, if we give them up there will be less bad things. And religious white people are the real bad ones. And when you hold a gun you're practicing for murder. The more guns that are around, the more people will be compelled to murder, except for Jews and the Swiss, which you admit but can't explain.

Your psychotic ramblings. I'm not even using hyperbole...that's your own stupid shit, and we all see it.

You're a stupid, stupid motherfucker, and I'm enjoying saying it to you.

You fucking bet I am.

Hell, I don't think I've ever enjoyed anything more.

So you don't understand the difference between rape and sex? Scary...

Sure I do, but you don't seem to be able to articulate the clumsy, half-assed and juvenile point you're trying to make. I understood you, but it doesn't mean you got a good shot off.

Let's go to the sanity chalkboard since you've shit yourself and can't focus:

1. Guns have legitimate uses other than killing. Some are designed for such non-lethal, non-weaponized uses. Even ones supposedly designed for killing can be used for completely recreational and non-weapon uses, thus their design or the inventor's motives are irrelevant. You refuse to acknowledge this, because why? You fail at thinking.

2. Penises, obviously, have other uses besides raping bitches. The penis (like a gun) is entirely dependent on the motives of the person who uses it to piss, rape, or in your case dribble a sad money shot on the belly of the first emotionally wrecked female you harass into a pity fuck. I'm taking your shit pile of an argument, and rubbing your face in it. And, you seem to like the taste.

3. You're a fucking moron.

4. See 3.

BLAM!

Creator.. wrong...

He laughs at your arrogance. You probably believe in dinosaurs too. For a guy who thinks pieces of metal have influence on people, it's odd that you find the idea of a magic man in the sky so distasteful. You're a complex guy, did you know that? Retards often baffle the mind.

Now tell me how many times do you consentually shoot someone?

So rape is consensual? The more you know.

Your g/f b/f s/o whatever says to you, hey baby, get your gun out and come shoot me now, I really need you to shoot me tonight...

Actually, that's an eerily accurate description of my wife's foreplay. It gets me super fucking hot.

You're a floating turd amongst sinkers, Magz, a real mystery.

BAM!

Wrong...

Are you questioning the creator's intentions for a weapon that's used to commit 93,000 rapes per year in the United States?

What other motive could he have in mind, when the penis culture compels men to use their assault cocks to hurt so many women? That thing was built to penetrate women's bodies. No other use. None. Pissing? Yeah, sure, it's just rape practice. That toilet looks like a big vagina. Don't kid yourself...you're a rapist in all but practice, bud.

It's not like people target cum. It's a weapon, period.

If people would just give up their dicks, we'd live in the utopia that I dream of.

It's irresponsible for you to even have a dick. Think of the harm you could do to a woman. I say that somewhat rhetorically, we both no you're not hurting any women any time soon.

POW!

This thread is still going? Really?! Well now that I'm all caught up I'll let Magz know how I keep my gun secure and out of my daughters hands while also having access to it VERY quickly. I have a bio metric gunsafe mounted to the bottom of my bed. It requires my fingerprint to open it. It takes about 2 seconds for me to roll over and have a gun in my hand. Its very effective and I don't have to look for a key. Plus my daughter CANNOT open it. I don't WANT to kill anyone with it but I will choose my daughters safety over your life should you kick down my door and I will make that decision quickly.

You're just practicing for murder with that thing, and you're contributing to our awful "gun culture" by having it around.

If you voluntarily disarm, we'll all be more civilized and Magz and snakeshit can sleep a little easier in their Lightning McQueen beds.

Do it for them.

BTW, this thread fucking rocks. It's like those blow up punching things I had as a kid. I don't care what you're doing you just can't walk by it without bopping that motherfucker just because it deserves it.

Go on, give it a flying elbow.

here's some more

Here's lots of rapists that violated women with dangerous assault penises.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=rape#hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&sclient=psy-ab&q=rapist+caught&oq=rapist+caught&gs_l=serp.3...12032.14333.0.14368.11.7.0.0.0.0.936.2729.1j5-3j1.5.0...0.0...1c.414pz_bKVQM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=d0d9c8551d410eca&biw=1200&bih=786

The penis was designed as a tool of sexual aggression. There is no legitimate use for a penis, it's a tool of sexual deviancy and harm. Every time you touch yours in the full length mirror, you're practicing for rape.

This disgusting penis culture glorifies the use of penises to harm women.

You're compensating for your penis with your penis.

Coward.

If you were a real man, you'd love women tenderly with your elbow.

your latent racism is glaring...it's them "urban" kids doing all the shooting, "alls us white christian folk just use 'em fer dekerashin"

It's not racist to see the racial breakdown the FBI sees fit to publish on violent crime. It's not racist to see that one small demographic commits the overwhelming majority of violent crimes, and against each other, and in one particular geography above most else.

It's sad, it's unfortunate, but it's not racist to notice.

Now, back to you being a miserable little moron with a big mouth full of nothing...because when given the flying elbow of logic, you retreat into lame insults.

BTW, I'm an atheist of Jewish descent. So, your assumptions match your impeccable critical thinking skills.

you keep coming back to 1 statistical anomaly, in a cross section of countries, I'm not ignoring Switzerland, you're ignoring the entire middle east, and all of africa...

I brought up Israel too, but you were too fucking stupid to understand that the violence there is nearly entirely caused by outside culture and actors. But, both exemplify that it's not the presence of guns, but the socio-economic and cultural influences that foster violence and that destroys your belief. Again, you're too stupid to wrap your head around it. Or, you're lying and too stubborn to admit you've been beaten. Or, and this my personal favorite theory, you're stupid and lying.

so go stand on your island of a statistic... one blip on the radar of all the gun culture surrounding it.

There you are again with "gun culture" hysteria. Fear. You are nothing but irrational, pussified fear.

Ignore all the data except for the one tiny cross section of a specific people...and I'm the one who's deluded...

Oh, I'm sorry, have you presented any data? Factor out the violent inner cities and America's gun and violent crime rate, given our incredibly high percentage of gun ownership, is astonishingly low - lower than some countries with extremely restrictive gun ownership and laws.

Not a single piece of anecdotal, fear-based bullshit you've ever puked out of your gob has supported the idea that gun prevalence, by itself, leads to higher incidents of violence or murder. And, Israel and Switzerland, as well as rural white America, stand in complete defiance of that retarded and simplistic viewpoint.

You're a fucking moron.

Hey Magz, for the 20th time, explain Switzerland's almost non-existent gun homicide rate for me.

You can't and you won't, but it destroys the bedrock of your bias - the belief that gun culture (Switzerland has a longer, richer tradition there than we do), gun prevalence (one per household), and easy access to guns (again, nowhere on Earth is it so easy to put hands on an assault rifle) leads to violence.

Your entire philosophy is built on bullshit.

Look it in the eye, dipshit.

Factor out black-on-black drug violence in the US, and then compare our homicide rates, gun-crime rates or any other kind of violence to Europe....we're lower than most countries there by a good bit.

Our problems are the cultures of violence, the ghetto and our failed drug policies, and they exist with or without firearms. Don't believe me? Examine knife and blunt object violence in the inner city by young black men verses the rest of the nation?

Guess what?

Same lopsided statistics.

Our problem isn't guns. Never was.

I did a track day on a DL1000...it was a blast.

the general acceptabce of guns, and the gun culture shields those who would use them against an innocent population...

Like the Swiss?

Just as your religious culture shields cults who use religion to harm the population. (WBC being one of the most outspoken, even if not the most harmful)

I assume you're including those awful Muslims and their brutal misogynistic religion practiced widely here in the states. Or, do you just hate Christians because you're counter-culture? Do tell, che.

If we as a society simply rejected guns as acceptable, there would be fewer available, and this sort of thing would happen less often...it wouldn't stop completely, but it would certainly happen less often.

The first people you should talk to are those inner city black kids involved in drugs. They commit the bulk of our gun crimes, so if you can get them to abandon their gun & violence culture, I think the white Christian folks you really hate would probably be way more willing to surrender their 2nd amendment fixation. Get to work, sport.

how often do you see someone blowing up a building with C4?

Why would you use an exotic, hard-to-find explosive when you can just brew your own and stay under the radar? Anyway...how often do women die by blunt objects, knives or fists? How often do they get raped by penises? Perhaps we should abandon our appendages, and this would certainly happen less. How often do you hear about a guy assaulting a girl with a cricket bat? Same genius observation.

It was nice deflating your stupidity again. Let's do it again soon, after your refractory period.

Well, thank god they can't legally protest his funeral. Now all his white power buddies can grieve in peace...

(*taps glass* here swingset, here boy... cmon out, tell us why sikhs, and residents of oak creek should be legally barred from protesting this funeral...)

I don't agree with anyone protesting a funeral, for any reason. If you choked on a hot dog while jerking off to Bowling For Columbine, I wouldn't show up and harass your relatives either.

Your bait stinks, and so does your worldview.

You call it guessing. I call it a hypothesis.

I'm surprised he's former military' date=' though. Well, not surprised, but a little saddened.[/quote']

God bless America's hate/propaganda machine. Stupid fucking rednecks.. that's not even the right religion. Dumb fucking dead hillbilly.

Sounded to me like you thought you knew exactly who this was and how it went down...and you blamed it on a mechanism of hate, by America.

You might very well be right about the guy's motivation, but you were still guessing...and in this case pinning it on an outside force instead of the nut/dickwad that went off the reservation.

Again, I tend not to do that. I listen to the same hate as everyone else, I'm not shooting up a daycare any time soon.

Stay focused, it's the nut.

Pretty damn close. White, former military, frustrated neo-Nazi skinhead. All killed with a gun he bought less then 10 days ago. Sad thing is IP is 100% with this fucking retard generalizing all "darkies" as muslims.

"Members of the temple described the gunman as a tall male with what appeared to be a "9/11 tattoo." Officials told NBC News late Sunday that the suspect had many tattoos."

Supposedly a race warrior, white guy, all apparently accurate.

Redneck? Not all skinheads or race-warriors are rednecks. Dipshits, but not all rednecks. Hell, Scandinavia is full of skinheads, so is Canada. Not ready to say this guy is a backwards southerner yet. He might be a bright, well-educated, lucid person who is part of a white-supremacist movement. Might be a mouthbreather too. We'll see.

Attacked the wrong religion? Not sure about that either. May have well knew the religious makeup of the people he was attacking. Given his military role, he should have been smart enough to differentiate.

Still jumping to conclusions. We still don't know a lot, but even if IP is 100% correct he was guessing, same as people guessed about Hassan, and the Aurora shooter, etc. I've learned better than to do that.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/05/us/wisconsin-temple-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Sure were fast to throw that out. When you have a white perp I guess it's ok. When Nidal Hassan shot up Fort Hood, they downplayed terrorism for a long time....why? Because of the hate/propaganda machine Isaac's Papa thinks we have.

Anyway, we still don't know his motivation. Could be a violent redneck moron, but then everyone blamed Sarah Palin and the right wing for Gabby Gifford's shooting until we found out he was a left-leaning nutjob.

I'll just go ahead and wait to find out what's really going on. I'm weird that way.

God bless America's hate/propaganda machine. Stupid fucking rednecks.. that's not even the right religion. Dumb fucking dead hillbilly.

Jumping to conclusions a bit, aren't we?

I won't necessarily be surprised if it's a dipshit redneck who's confused about Sikhs and Muslims, there are stupid people out there, but at this stage it could be a lot of motivations ranging from fucking nuts to has a beef with someone at that place of worship.

Isn't an automatic assumption of a dumb redneck going violent against foreigners the same type of propaganda and hate you're accusing others of?

Vigilante justice. It's the only answer.

A suitable loner would have to be chosen. He would be of the middle class, and medium smart. He would be athletic, sort of, and would throw elbows of justice. He would ride a discrete yet copper hayabusa, and build helicopters in his backyard.

We could call him.... Scatman

I'd buy your newsletter.

When scatman shits, he's just practicing for justice.

This would be nice...

Sig 542...7.62 Swiss goodness.

Yup, remove tank, remove petcock, empty in neighbors lawn, let dry in the sun.

I slosh around some drying agent (isopropyl alcohol works fine) before setting it out. Takes care of any water in nooks and crannies in minutes.

Assemble, fill with fresh gas and go.

Clean your petcock filter while you're at it, and flush it out as it can hold some moisture too.

It's all a matter of perspective.

That's the only thing we'll agree on since you feel a legitimate expression of free speech is protesting the grieving families of dead soldiers...and find no apparent violation of their privacy or rights to bury their loved ones in peace.

Nothing else I can say.

I still think it's funny some people in this thread want to legislate morality, ethics, and decency.

You can speak to me directly. I'm right here. I think it's funny you dance around my argument and just make the same claims two times in a row, as if repeating yourself makes you more right.

I don't want to legislate morality, even if you insist I do. Ask me on any topic of morality and ethics, decency or so on and I will always side with "hands off" until your actions directly affect others. Then, when your need to project your bullshit harms others, if you're too stupid to live and let live, I'm fine with laws that protect the innocent from the harm of others. That is, rationally, the only reason for laws in the first place.

You want that 'scat porn' billboard up on your private property then I always have the option of moving, right?

Yes, but it doesn't change the nature of the offense, or the state of those harmed by your actions. If I yell "that guy's got a gun!" in a crowded theater (the litmus test of free speech), you're always free not to panic or get trampled by others right? Your freedom ends where mine begins. It's a simple concept. Dwell on it.

Or, lets get the gov't to step in and ban scat.

I wouldn't advocate that, or support it. You have the option of looking at it, or not, but not if your neighbor puts a sign in your children's view. This isn't hard, but you're trying to make it so.

No negatives can come from banning scat billboards, right? Don't like the way someone smells? Then we can have the gov't mandate the amount of times people shower so as not to offend my olefactory senses. "I'm not making you shower, I'm just asking the gov't to make you shower when you're around ME between the hours of 8AM and 5PM"

Histrionics. Straw men.

This has much less to do with being an intellectual heavyweight as it does debating the subjectivity of ethics and morals and contrasting them with an equitable compromise within our society that doesn't turn one section of the populace into uptight hypocrites.

Good, then let's start debating and talk less in amateurish run-arounds because you can't grasp the concept of your actions affecting others in a negative way, the limits of your freedom, while others conducting are private and solemn affair and are never an appropriate venue for a protest. It's a shame grown men need help in comprehending this. Maybe that's why we're having this conversation, because we've become a nation of people so callous that protesting funerals is considered a right.

It's going to be a very tough road to plow if you want to start adding more subjectivity to the legal system.

I don't. I simply support a single, focused, and unambiguous law that stops people like the Westboro douches. It's not far-reaching, it has no real ability to grow or be interpreted to mean other things. It's not a slippery slope it's very clear. It's a simple law, for a simple problem, and it makes sense in this limited area and does more good than harm.

As all laws should...otherwise I'm against them.