Artmageddon

Awesome. Have fun and be safe.

Just heard about this, was wondering what happened.

Artmageddon, you east or west of smoky row? I live down the road on bride water.

west, right off of queensbridge/maybrook. I know where Bridewater is, about two minutes away. We'll have to meet sometime to go a bike night or something.

Another neighbor just told me that he heard had been drinking, riding wheelies down the street.

Hit a parked car.

It happened on a residential street, 25 mph. Lot's of kids in this neighborhood. Stupid.

They showed the bike on the news, not one I've ever seen around.

Hell yeah! Great trade, man.

I pulled in to my driveway and my neighbor told there was a motorcycle accident near Queensbridge and Smoky Row, a few blocks from my house.

No concrete facts, except that it was black and yellow sportbike, male in his 30's.

I guess he was speeding(around double the posted limit), hit a truck, and the bike flipped up and landed on him, not sure what caused the fatal wounds.

This is hearsay, like I said, no concrete facts.

Anyone have any more info? Is this someone anyone knows? I think channel 10 was there, we may find out more info later.

Best wishes to his family.

Okay, I'm almost ready to send this off to the officers I have lined up, just wanted to post this for proofreading and give everyone one more chance to add a questions or two. I know there are more that I have, but my mind is blank right now. Let me know. Thanks!

Equipment Regulations

What are the regulations on exhausts in regard to noise ordinance? Can a rider be ticketed if the exhaust does not have baffles?

What is the regulation on wearing earphones while riding? Is one ear legal? What if the headphones are in the ear pockets of the helmet and not actually covering the ears and are not a communication system?

Does a license plate need to be lighted? Does it have to oriented horizontally? Are there any other situations that an officer may pullover a rider due to a license plate infraction?

In regards to accent lighting, what is acceptable? Are there any colors that are not legal or any placement restrictions?

If I ride with my face shield up, can i be given a ticket for not having eye protection? Do normal eyeglasses constitute as eye protection? What if is in combination of face shield that may be raised?

Would a rider receive a ticket if the bike does not have the following:

Rear-view mirrors?

Turn signals?

Speedometer ?

Any other equipment?

Is there any type of grandfather clause that may exempt an older bike from any equipment violations?

License and Registation

In Ohio, it appears that are three levels of licensed motorcyclists:

1. Temporary permit

2.Endorsement with novice designation

3.Endorsement

A permit restricts a rider from carrying passengers, riding without a helmet, riding after dark, and riding on congested roadways? Besides an interstate highway, what constitutes a congested roadway? Is a state route considered congested? A busy four lane road?

What if a permitted rider is pulled over at dusk on their way home? Are there any other restrictions a permitted rider needs to be aware of?

It appears the only restriction that a novice rider has is they must wear a helmet for one year after their MC endorsement/ license is issued. There have been situations where officers have treated the novice status as a permit with all of its restrictions. How does a rider handle this situation besides going to court? Is there a proper way to inform the officer that it is a different designation?

What if after one year of having a MC endorsement a rider does not get the novice designation removed from their license, is pulled over, and the officer insists that they are still a novice and tickets for no helmet or treats it like a permit?

On some bikes, it is not easy to carry a registration. If a rider is pulled over and can provide proof of registration at the time of the incident, what is the penalty? Are they given a chance to show proof before they are cited? IF so, what is the time limit and procedure?

If a mechanic is testing a bike( or car) with an expired tag or the bike belongs to someone with a suspended license, can they be cited?

Rider Behavior

Often motorcyclists swerve and ride in various parts of the lane, whether it be to avoid obstacles or to stay alert. Is there ever a situation where a rider may be pulled over for such under suspicion of drunk driving?

If a motorcycle is stopped at a red light for an extended period of time, not activating it and, there is not traffic coming in any direction , is there a time when it is okay to go through the red light?

If a group of motorcycles are riding in formation, would a rider be stopped if the light changed while the last rider is not clear of it? What if the light had just changed to red, there is no oncoming traffic and the last rider just misses the light and passes through to stay in formation. Would they be cited?

Are hand signals as legal as electric signals? Can a rider be ticketed for using hand signals?

Is there any time or situation that lane splitting is allowed? i.e. if traffic is at a halt with no movement in sight.

If while being pulled over, a rider recognizes that it unsafe to pull over and continues on for a time until a safe place is recognized. Would they be cited for fleeing?

If a rider is speeding and makes the decision to flee at high speeds, will an officer pursue? There have been situations that officers have told speeding motorcyclist had they ran, the officer would not have bothered with them.

If a rider flees and is caught whether it be at the time of the incident or later due to a license number, what is the punishment? What if an accident is caused by the pursuit? What if they start to flee, realize their error and stop after a short distance?

If a motorcyclist is being tailgated, is it okay to exceed the speed limit for a short time to escape the vicinity of the tailgater?

Is there a penalty for defended one’s self from an aggressive four wheel vehicle? For example, what if a car was tailgating continuously, swerving at the motorcycle and not submitting when the rider attempted to pull over and le the driver pass. If say a marble or penny was tossed at the car, what would the penalty be?

What is the law concerning concealed carry on a motorcycle? What about a non-concealed or open carry, i.e carrying a weapon while on the way to a range?

LEO Behavior

Can a police officer take radar while his car is concealed and lights (light bar, parking lights and headlights) are off? Or does the officer at least need to make an attempt at visibility to not be considered entrapment?

Can an unmarked cruiser pull you over? If you do not pull over for an unmarked cruiser, what is the punishment? Is it prudent to go to a station or call the local police department to confirm that an officer is in an unmarked car and is asking you to pull over?

If in a high speed pursuit of a motorcyclist, would an LEO ever use spike strips to stop the rider? Would a road block ever be set up to stop the chase?

How does an officer determine to give a motorcyclist a warning? Is it their discretion? Is there ever a situation where an officer does not have a choice in giving someone a ticket?

I'm waiting for the pic from the parade for dudes on bikes together......

Like everyone else said, as long the passenger doesn't put their feet down and leans with you, it will be fine.

Allow some extra braking time.

Shift smoothly so you don't crack helmets.

Expect sluggish performance.

Don't try to ride balls out, just take it easy, remember there is another life at risk.

Oh, and ride the girlfriend first if it's a serious relationship, unless the first passenger is your mom, she'll never let it go.

I am aware of that I have ridden some crotch rockets and I have decided on the 1000. I will buy one here in the next week or so.

Oh I hear ya, get what you want. I just wouldn't consider going from a 750 cruiser to a 600 sportbike trading down to a "smaller" bike.

I was very disappointed with the new HD line-up. I was considering buying a Night Train or Fat Bob if they made some improvements mechanically and aesthetically, but they are identical to the 2009 models. Way to go, Harley.

I don't even see the hardcore HD guys going after these much or getting too excited.

I passed a four year old on a big wheel the other day, I was pretty proud of myself.

Just figured I would throw that out in this dick measuring contest. I'm the winnar!!

Lance, a 750 Spirit and 600 sportbike are not even in the same ballpark as far as speed, handling and power go. You know that.

I've got about 3500 so far, but a trip in in two weeks will add 2-4k, depending on where I go.

Link to Pic album of Lance's bike & injuries.....

http://www.ohio-riders.com/album.php?albumid=592

we do know that the vehical was actually insured.just not the driver... so he will be taken care of

Yep. The driver did not have insurance, but the owner of the vehicle did. She and her insurance Co. will be responsible for any bills and the bike, hopefully more.

Lesson learned- don't let an uninsured, douche with no license borrow your car. Not only will he fuck you over, he will also almost kill our friends.

I hope when he was jail and asked what he did, there was some drunk hardcore biker there to whoop on him him a bit.

just left the hospital, he just got transferred, room 600. he.s doing ok, wrist is broken, road rash, he said not to worry too much. his arm saved his head from hitting. happened at the broad street exit at 270, west side. bike is fucked, but can be fixed.

Mike said something about a broken wrist and road rash. Sounds like for the most part he made it out okay.

He may have said broken, he was talking to the police at the same time, and it was quick conversation.

Just talked to Lance's Dad, he was admitted to Grant, dislocated wrist, maybe more.

Decently okay overall though.

Waiting for CAT scan.

Rear-ended. That's all I know right now.

Damn. He was just recovering from his Semi wreck. Hope he's okay and nothing too serious. Keep us updated.

Being stuck with Verizon and the ridiculous content locks they put on phones, I had a tough time when upgrading my phone recently.

I almost paid the fee to cancel my contract and get an iphone, but Verizon will have the iphone in 2010/11. Ican wait for now. I am also not a big apple fan.

I wanted a good web browser and navigation. I looked at the blackberrys, absolutely hate the roller ball. The Storm was a good option, but I hate typing on touch screens.

I went with the Env Touch. Nice little phone. Has it's faults, but waht phones don't? Some of them nay just be me getting used to it as well. Is it an iphone? No, but if had to pick again, I still think I would pick the Env.

I really like the two screens, and a true qwerty keyboard and a touchscreen is awesome.

Now if Verizon would unlock the phones and let some apps get made........

If you play games or want a bunch of extras, be prepared to shell out cash.

I'll compare it the iphone, since that seems to be the gold standard.

Obviously, the iphones apps are better.

The iphone's navigation is better than Verizon's VZ navigator, but VZ gets the job done, but takesa few more steps.

Web browsing is about the same, there are few pages that show funny, but they may do the same on other phones as well, not sure. OR.net works great!

I like the Env's touch screen slightly better than the iphone, only because the iphone zoom works backwards than I would expect it to. That may just be becasue I am left handed, and lots of things are backwards to me.

The Env, is a little jumpy on the touch screen, but once you get used to it, it's fine.

The true keyboard was the real seller to me for the Env.

Verizon's nationwide premium plan is unlimited text, web, navigation, etc. I think the pricing is fairly similiar to AT&T.

Yeah, pretty much read the whole post except the first thread and the title with all of the info.

Have fun, you guys are doing it up right, I'll be in a tent at least 5-6 of those nights. I feel bad for my back.

What are the dates on this? I'm thinking of doing this trip solo 8-13 to 8-23.

I don't have shit planned, that's half the fun. tent, right gear, extra fuel, water, good to go til I can't go no more.

Still debating on this trip or New Orleans and then up the coast.

Duh, I can't read the freaking thread title.

Iron Pony will price match if you talk to the right people, or at least get close to competitors and match their web pricing.

I like having IP around. We are lucky, a lot of places in the country have nothing even close to them. If you can go to a place and have access to try on the gear, why not buy from them even if it takes a bit of haggling to get the price you want?

Enough people start only using them for a closet, they may be gone.

I'm a touch and see person. I want to know exact what I'm getting. I know I can always find a cheaper price online, but as long as they are competitive, I will pay a small premium to see what I'm getting and pick it up.

I always have good luck with customer service there as well.

Their website does suck though, hopefully this new one is better. The search crashes almost every time I use it.

Competition in Springfield is nice, I like how it's organized and maybe it's just me, but I thought the customer service there was real good. A cute girl helped me for a long time while I tried on helmets, can't beat that. Not real convenient to Cbus like IP is though. From what I could see, pricing was decent.

Maybe something like this?

http://www.jpcycles.com/Search/ProductDetail?sku=ZZ34096&N=2761610%202757029%20275074%2028004038&Ne=36365&Ntk=All&Ntt=&Ns=DefaultSort&results=10&No=

Happy Birthday!

Interesting marketing. Pretty much saying that it was a turd.

I've ridden a Blast, took the MSF on one. Neat little bike for a young rider or a smaller adult.

I've also seen Bubba Blackwell ride the shit out of one, wheelies, stoppies, pretty much pushed it the limits.

I don't really think it will be missed much though.

Try Heflin's in Plain City. We used him for our wedding, awesome food & service, great prices.

Not sure if he'll go to Charleston, though.....

http://columbus.citysearch.com/profile/7832952/plain_city_oh/heflins_caterers.html