At the end of the day, that's what this whole argument boils down to. BikerBoy, honestly man, if you want to have a reasonable, informed discussion I recommend two things. First, for the love of all powerful Atheismo, use a spell and grammar checker. Your arguments come through a lot clearer when I'm don't have a headache from trying to decipher your words. Second, cite some freakin sources. Youtube or "some arabic song about palestine" doesn't count. It's painfully obvious to pretty much everyone here that your grasp on the history and present-day activities of that region is a little lacking, maybe doing a little research to support your opinions will open your eyes to new viewpoints.