twisted12

i did not upload in 1080 was taking to long, i have alot of video i will burn it and give it to you next time i see you

http://youtu.be/z9JaW2dpLeM

think i am going the 31st as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9JaW2dpLeM

i mount my go-pro on the top of my helmet works great used it at the track and plenty of rides great view no vibration works great. Also it does not drag in the wind much when riding works for me

my friend jeff is sighned up for novice, looking forward to it

Glad your ok man that could have been alot worse

cant believe i am missing this ride you guys are meeting 2 miles from my house. I did ride 800 today though

I went on a big ride in coshocton in 09 I believe there was only 1 accident and I dont believe he is on the forum. It was a great ride and my first with ohio riders. There were alot of guys that helped out but I have not been on a ride that big since it was awesome though

i have been on that thursday thing with you once it was crazy out of control. I stayed way in the back would probrably go again though

swamp people

ok got ya I said when looking for a cheap car like $8000 and under a private seller is a good route especially under 5k. But when lookin at bigger ticket items a dealer is a good route because alot of times a private seller has a loan on the vehicle and is most likely buried in it. So he is also trying to get retail value. They probrably went to the dealer to try and trade it in to find out they were upside down in it. Not always but alot of times. I would have to believe the private seller is trying to make a buck to. I do when i sell something

Sorry nate guess I dont understand what you are saying? What doesnt make sense,unless you are talking about the age of the vehicle on the lot. No they are not desperate to give away a car. I mean think of it this way. You go out as a dealer and spend 20,000 on a truck to make 1,000 dollars seems like it isnt even worth it and as a used car manager you wont be around long. The owner likes a higher gross average then that. And even though the dealer is making a few bucks they are buying at wholesale or swiped the trade at a good price. But as for the vehicles age they do get very aggressive to sell them as they get older. We are there to make some money just like the guy selling them out of his driveway

ok then bricks but that wouldnt be pretty either

i may blow mud , but no bricks haha

We throw out the records because of personal information. As far as maintenence records you can get that on carfax as long as it was serviced at the dealership. And as far as price cheap cars are nice to buy from a private buyer. People selling more expensive vehicle are trying to get out from under a loan alot of times and cant trade them in because they are buried in them. So buying from a private seller isnt always the best route

Ok I have been selling cars for 15 years I know a little about this. First of all the average age for a used car on the lot is right around 90 days. With that being said if the truck has only been on the lot for two weeks they probably do not want to " give it away" since it is not depressed mechandise. In my experience pre-owned cars when they are fresh say under 30 days old are marked up about 2500 to 3,000. After that the price gets adjusted acording to age they do get to a point when they are "give aways" mini-deals. I think if it is really a 2 or 3 week old unit 2 thousand off is pretty strong at least at my dealership. Be sure to check the carfax as well. Also as far as going to other dealerships on a used car its hard to compare since there are no two pre-owned cars that are the same. If you really like the truck and the salesman try and work out a deal or you may miss out on it all together. Make sure they are not selling it as-is. Also the fees on top of the selling price are $250 doc fee, $33.50 for title and reg and of course tax. Good luck. And to get to the 20,000 mark see if he will bring in a offer of like 19500 and go from there

me 2

looks good

sounds good cant get much for 800 nowadays

thats sucks but beats the speeding ticket

nice congrats

Well sounds like a crazy day glad no serious injuries, wish I could have went but I am down in this shitty place called virginia beach you know crappy stuff like sand, beach, women with hardly any clothes on. I guess I will just have to press on for a few more days.