just an update for those interested in these tires. I have put about 8-9 thousand miles on these tires, they seem to have about 1000-2000 miles left on the rear and about 3-4 thousand left on the front. I am getting ready to head to maine next week so I am going to throw a set of pr2s on the bike just to see how they compare. All in all I am very happy with the pr3 as far as tire life, grip in wet and dry