Noone is arguing all police are useless and should be killed... I certainly didn't make that argument. But my argument is, anytime you give folks the type of power the police have TAKEN there are going to be bad apples, and at that point something needs to be done. The main point of this thread is that the police force is meant to PROTECT and SERVE the community. Not enforce what they, their supervisors, or their supervisors' supervisor believe should be enforced. Jumping out of a car and pointing a gun at a non-violent motorcyclist is not PROTECTING anyone. Beating students that are protesting is not PROTECTING anyone, tazing a non-compliant handcuffed individual is not PROTECTING anyone. Noone is saying ALL police are doing these things, but guess what.... it doesn't matter. If a police officer tazed your friend, who is driving their car, and they won't stop... and you draw your sidearm and stop the police officer... what do you think is going to happen? You're GOING to get arrested, shot, harassed, and or killed. There is NO defending against a police officer... so what should people do to protect themselves?